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Edmar J Mednis vs Jan Timman
"Can I Play With Mednis?" (game of the day May-24-2018)
Parcetic Memorial 6th (1974), Sombor YUG, rd 5, Sep-28
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. Keres Attack (B81)  ·  1-0



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Oct-05-04  morphy234: i don't get the pun.
Oct-05-04  clocked: <morphy234> maybe <iron maiden> will explain it to you ;-)
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  me to play: Can I play with madness
The prophet looked and he laughed at me
Can I play with madness
He said you’re blind too blind to see
Oct-05-04  siggemannen: it's an Iron Maiden tune, one of their best IMO, but not as good as Flight Of Icarus
Oct-05-04  marekg248: Great game. Black cannot avoid being mated or suffering heavy losses in the end. By the way, when I was a boy, I was mad about Golden years. I think it was called so.
Premium Chessgames Member <I don't get the pun.> We don't get it either, but we were told on good authority that it would be a nice surprise for our friend <iron maiden> so we used it.

Happy Birthday, Iron Maiden!

Oct-05-04  aragorn69: A very clean, typical Schveningen from the White side. All the right pawn pushes (g6, a3, e5, f5) at the right times. And a subtle (Qg3 is -to me at least- the hardest move to find in this game), but so logical final combo!
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  patzer2: White's 6. g4 in the Sicilian, Scheveningen, Keres attack is difficult for Black to counter. Avoiding castling wasn't much good for Timman in this game. Perhaps Black can prepare and get away with Kingside castling as in A Lukin vs A Gabrielian, 2003, but the results of stronger play by White in the GM game Dolmatov vs A Korobov, 2003 seems to indicate this strategy is also unsafe for Black.
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  Honza Cervenka: 27.Qf7+ Qxf7 28.exf7+ would have won too. If 28...Kd7, then 29.Ne6+! Kxe6 30.Bh3+ Ke7 31.Bxc5+ or if 28...Ke7, then 29.Nf5+ Kxf7 (29...Ke6 30.Nxg7+! Bxg7 31.Bh3+ Ke7 32.Bxc5+ ) 30.Nd6+ Kg8 31.Nxb7 and black cannot avoid huge loss of material.
Oct-05-04  znosko2000: <patzer2> it seems that Timman was able to learn how to counter 6. g4 with h6 slowing down the white pawn attack in a game against Karpov in 1982 (I am not sure how to link to it).
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  patzer2: <znosko2000> I think you're referring to Karpov vs Timman, 1982. Check out the "help" tab above for instructions on finding and posting links to games.
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  patzer2: <znosko2000> You make a good point in that 6...h3, which is the mainline, offers Black better chances, as for example in the recent draws in Topalov vs Svidler, 2004 and K Landa vs Movsesian, 2004 or the Black win in Macieja vs Movsesian, 2004.
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  patzer2: Today's pun about a song by the heavy metal group "Iron Maiden" made me curious. As one who grew up on the folk, country and popular music of the 50's and early 60's, heavy metal is not something with which I am familiar. For me, heavy metal is something I wish you could still find in car bumpers.

However, I did find a favorable review on the group "Iron Maiden" at , with the positive comment: "If Iron Maiden ever wrote a song about sex, drugs, or rock and roll, I never heard it. The guys were too busy singing about literature and history. Here's a sampling of song titles: "The Flight of Icarus," "Alexander the Great," "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner."

This is not enough to make me ever desire to listen to heavy metal music, but it's encouraging that this group does seem to offer some positive messages and avoids much of the negative image of their peers in this genre.

Oct-05-04  Dillinger: <sex, drugs, or rock and roll?> I think the author was thinking of glam rock. Heavy metal songs are more likely to be about death, satan, and wizards.
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  kevin86: I remember Edmar Mednis as an expert commentator with Shelby Lyman in the Fischer-Spassky championship 1972 on TV 13 in NYC.

I have another pun:Compus Mednis!

Oct-05-04  aw1988: Hey metal head, we're all kibitzing about you! Put some oil in your head and acknowledge our congratulations! :) How old now? 16, 17?
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  cu8sfan: He hasn't been seen today. Maybe he's gone away for his birthday.

Btw how did know it was his birthday? Big Brother's everywhere!

Oct-05-04  iron maiden: Hey everybody! Wish I could've been here sooner, but unfortunately I had to work.

<patzer2> More Iron Maiden works related to classical literature and history include Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, The Trooper, Montsegur, Paschendale, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son and Phantom of the Opera.

A big thank you to and everybody else who (somehow) found out my seventeenth birthday was today. To be honest I think "Can I Play With Madness" is slightly overrated, but it's still a nice song.

Oct-05-04  iron maiden: BTW chessgames, who was the "good authority" that gave you the idea for the pun? I owe him or her the biggest "thank you" of all!
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  kevin86: You have a heart:<iron maiden>
Nov-06-04  morphy234: UP THE IRONS! I slap myself for not knowing who Iron Maiden is.
Nov-18-10  sevenseaman: Why should so much kibitzing be wasted on a mere pun? If it is not widely understood, it cant be much fun.

A pun-tortured King once banned all punning. The court jester was an addict and could not resist. He was duly sentenced to be hanged.

After some pleas for mercy the King relented to give one last chance to the joker.

The court officer with the dispatch, 'the King has spared your life on condition never to pun again'.

'No noose is good noose' said the unfortunate one and got hanged.

CG, who is the King here? A good game though.

Oct-10-14  Rookiepawn: <If Iron Maiden ever wrote a song about sex, drugs, or rock and roll, I never heard it>

It is curious to value art according to its subject. This criterion would certainly rule out the Arabian Nights (lots of sex), Shakespeare (murder, madness, greed, violence), de Quincey (drugs galore), Goya (a father eating his own son!, which by the way belongs to Greek mithology, something to rule out too).

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  nok: Never heard of a lady named Charlotte?
Jul-18-16  Cobax12: Keres Atack 6g4!
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