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Jan Timman vs Jacob Murey
"Murey, Murey, quite contrary" (game of the day Sep-29-2021)
FRA-chT (1993)
Russian Game: Modern Attack. Murrey Variation (C43)  ·  1-0



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May-30-08  whiteshark: Btw, why not playing <9...fxg5!> here ?

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Jul-30-11  I play the Fred: According to GM Glenn Flear, in the book "Grandmaster Chess", Murey was inviting people to come look at 4...Nc6 <during the game>. He passed along this anecdote in his annotation to a win by today's Player of the Day, Gyozo Forintos, who played 4...Nc6 to defeat a rising star in 1994.

I can't remember who it was he beat with it, I don't have the book with me, and the game is not in this database. Perhaps one of you has ready access to this book and can pass along the game?

Jul-30-11  ounos: Hello all. I'm on G+, and I realized I'd like to have a chess circle, occasionally post interesting positions and such.

And I realize that, my good old trust doesn't quite cut it - the java players here seem to make it impossible to copy the position as a fen. Any "pro" tips around here? What's the most efficient way to grab a fen at a specific move?

Jul-31-11  crawfb5: <What's the most efficient way to grab a fen at a specific move?>

Press the right mouse button and select <Copy Position (EPD)> or Ctrl-P while over the board, then copy the FEN that in the small popup window that appears.

Jul-31-11  I play the Fred: I remember now. It was Tiviakov.
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  WannaBe: <ounos> If you are using Deluxe Chess Viewer, just right click on the position/board, and select Copy Position, open up a text editor and select Edit->Copy

This will allow you to copy any position on the board, and with the notations that tells you who is to move next. Hope this helps.

Sep-25-11  wordfunph: <I play the Fred: According to GM Glenn Flear, in the book "Grandmaster Chess", Murey was inviting people to come look at 4...Nc6 during the game>.

and GM Flear continued with..

<Unfortunately (for the eccentric genius Murey) Timman kept his cool and steered the game into a favourable ending which he won.>

game result vs. novelty 1-0!

Aug-17-13  BlackFront: <Murey, Murey, quite contrary>
Oct-19-13  whiteshark: <Murrey Variation> Well well!
Aug-05-17  Howard: Would it surprise anyone to know that this game took first place in the Informant for the TN category ?!
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  OhioChessFan: Ummm, someone thought this was a good pun?
Sep-29-21  RookFile: Well, it's from a well known nursery rhyme recited in The Secret Garden, among other places. It does seem a little out of place here.

Regarding the game, Murey was doing reasonably well, but how do you not play 37....bxc5 and ...Rb2 next? In such positions, you roll the dice and play active no matter what. It's the only chance you have.

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  al wazir: This is the only game in the <CG> database in which Murey played the Murey variation.

(I'm going by what I found. In the database it's called the Petroff.)

The only other game with the Murey I found was D Dutina vs Z Jusic, 2011

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  MissScarlett: < Ummm, someone thought this was a good pun?>

Three people, at least, it would appear. And more importantly, the right people.

<What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an Hort vs D Paulsen, 1982, know what I mean?>

Anyone who affects to a chess culture should know this game.

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  Teyss: <MissScarlett: Three people, at least, it would appear. And more importantly, the right people.> Just for info, does this mean there is a committee of three deciding on puns?
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  MissScarlett: Me, myself and I.
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  Teyss: <MissScarlett> Sorry if I'm missing a joke, I'm recent on this site: YOU decide on puns? Or you dream of?
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  MissScarlett: Yes, I've been in charge for the last week. I've committed to using no more than two of my own submissions a week. You can't say fairer than that!
Sep-29-21  nalinw: Come on people - surely this is one of the better puns? Fits the game well ....
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  Teyss: <MissScarlett> That's more than fair, you could allow 3/week and still be below half.
Can we bribe you to accept puns? Oops, "Please observe our guidelines (...) Nothing in violation of United States law." Forget about it.
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  MissScarlett: One would think that English nursery rhymes are at least as lyrically significant as the great American songbook.
Sep-29-21  goodevans: I won't pretend to understand every tactical nuance of this game but there are a couple of strategic oddities in Mr Murey's play.

He plays the opening quite aggressively, sac'ing a pawn for active play, then trades off minors into a R and P ending where he would always be on the back foot. What's the thinking behind that?

Then there's 38...b4. Surely you want to be keeping all three Q-side pawns on the board.

Nice play by Timman. The only improvement in his play that readily suggests itself is 39.Re2 rather than 39.Re1 to protect the second rank. Then again, maybe encouraging 42...Rb2 was a deliberate ploy.

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  Teyss: <goodevans: (...) Then again, maybe encouraging 42...Rb2 was a deliberate ploy.> Considering Timman's strength, probably. Clever and wicked. Black wins back his P and occupies the second rank but the c P will promote.
That said, there wasn't much Black could do.
Sep-29-21  Stanco: Pawns are divided on smart and stupid ones, depending on the hand by wich they have been led. But then, so are the other pieces.
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  HeMateMe: A murey, but not a deadly Murey.
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