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Jeroen Piket vs Jan Timman
NED-ch (1997), Rotterdam NED, rd 10, Jul-02
Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Hungarian Variation (D97)  ·  0-1

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Dec-16-07
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  plang: This was the first time 11..cxd was played. This move has cast doubt on the 10 Be3 line for white. The main idea is 12 exd7..Qxd7 13 Rd1..e5. Timman considered 17 b4 to be a mistake recommending 17 Rc1. Timman felt that after 21..Rf4 he had a soild advantage. Timmans combination starting with 25..Rxa2 would have maintained a large advantage if he had followed it up with 27..Ba4+ and 28..Ra1+. Instead 27..b3? ledto an unclear position until Pikets mistake 30 f4 after which Timman was back in control. 30 Re3 would have kept the game unclear.
Aug-17-11  Hesam7: <plang: This was the first time 11..cxd was played. This move has cast doubt on the 10 Be3 line for white. The main idea is 12 exd7..Qxd7 13 Rd1..e5.>

Kasparov gives 12. exd7 dxe3 13. dxc8=Q exf2+ 14. Kxf2 Qb6+ followed by ... Rxc8 as the main line. Concluding that Black has 'excellent compensation'. Now the puzzling part is that my engine thinks your line gives black a clear advantage while Kasparov's recommendation leads to equality.

Jan-22-12  Hesam7: <Kasparov gives 12. exd7 dxe3 13. dxc8=Q exf2+ 14. Kxf2 Qb6+ followed by ... Rxc8 as the main line. Concluding that Black has 'excellent compensation'. Now the puzzling part is that my engine thinks your line gives black a clear advantage while Kasparov's recommendation leads to equality.>

Kasparov's line has a major hole: 12. exd7 dxe3 13. dxc8=N! (preventing the ... Qb6+ and ... Rxc8 maneuver) 13. ... exf2+ 14. Kxf2 (D) and now Black has two options in but in neither he has enough compensation for the piece sacrifice:


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1) 14. ... Qxc8 15. g3 Qc5+ 16. Kg2 Nc6 17. Be2 Rfd8 18. Rac1

2) 14. ... Bd4+ 15. Nxd4 Qxd4+ 16. Ke1 Rxc8 17. Rd1 Qe3+ 18. Be2 e6 19. Qc2

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