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Kiril Georgiev vs Veselin Topalov
"Georgiev on My Mind" (game of the day Aug-30-2005)
First Private Bank Ltd (1992), BUL, rd 3, Sep-??
Benko Gambit: Declined. Main Line (A57)  ·  1-0

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Dec-16-20  devere: A Saturday or Sunday puzzle on Wednesday.
Dec-16-20
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  agb2002: Level 2: 33.?
Lasker vs A Rumboll, 1892


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Dec-16-20  Mayankk: Bxd6 looked very tempting as all other Black pieces were well guarded. The next step was to find a nice square to park the White Queen after loss of Knight by Bxc3. But none of the squares seemed particularly threatening which meant the f8 Rook had time to escape...

I cant imagine this to be a forced win for White. There is just so much play left for Black. At best we can conclude that White has the initiative thanks to his passed d5 pawn. But it still has to cross many hurdles till it reaches its destination.

Dec-16-20
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  drollere: i agree, Bxd6 seemed important to advance the pawn with support for Re7 and a possible discovered check. but there are too many branches from there. once agb2002 gets to an A.4, B.3 and a C you know it's time to fire up SF. the last 10 moves were pretty grim for black.
Dec-16-20
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  drollere: <Jimfromprovidence: What if black decides to attack the queen with 26...Be5?! instead of the text 26...Rb7?>

very pretty!

Dec-16-20  Brenin: Another recycled game, though I didn't recognise it this time. Black could have retained his initiative with 22 ... Qd8, protecting the d-pawn and threatening f4 followed by Qh4. Seeing 23 Bxd6 wasn't hard, and after 23 ... Bxc3 I would have played 24 Bxf8, which also seems to work for White.
Dec-16-20  Walter Glattke: Found 23.Bxd6, was at the doctors with my broken hand, first comment at Oct 3, 2020 from me, 27.-Bxb7 28.Qc7 Bc8 29.d6+ Kh8 30.d7 Bxd7 31.Rxd7 Rxd7 32.Qxd7 Nxf2 33.Qe8+ Kg7 34.Qg8+ Kh6 35.Be3+ g5 36.Kxf2 white wins. 32.-Be5 33.Qe8+ Kg7 34.Qg8+ Kh6 35.Bf8+ Kh5 36.Qxh7+ Kg5 37.h4+ Kf4 38.g3+ Ke4 39.Qb7+ wins.
Dec-16-20  scormus: Payback for yesterday
Dec-16-20  Whitehat1963: Wow! A wee bit difficult for a Wednesday.
Dec-16-20  awfulhangover: This was easy, its the only move that make sense as a puzzle move!
Dec-16-20
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  Retireborn: This game is from the first Elenite tournament, a 12-player tournament won by Georgiev with 8.5/11.

These tournaments are sometimes referred to as in Burgas, but the precise geographical relation between the places is unclear to me.

Dec-16-20  saturn2: I spent some time and got stuck at

23. Bxd6Bxc324.Bxf8Kxf8 (Bxd2 Qxf8 lose)

At least good to know others had the same experience.

Dec-16-20
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  OhioChessFan: Ummmm. Did someone at cg.c think today was Sunday? No idea what was going on as I clicked through.
Dec-16-20  Cellist: I went with 23. Bxd6 and after 23. ... Bxc3 with 24. Bxf8. It looks like it wins the exchange and creates a free path for White's d pawn. Seemed enough for a win, but the actual play by White is better.
Dec-16-20  TheaN: A Saturday becomes a Wednesday. Wow. That's new. I'll stick to my analysis of 3 October; it's a relatively straightforward start and I think White had a better simplification in 24.Bxf8... weird as puzzle, definitely weird to use it as mid week after using it in the weekend.
Dec-16-20
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  thegoodanarchist: This game was played before Veselin Topalov was Veselin Topalov !
Dec-16-20
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  thegoodanarchist: One more thing - I have to agree with <Everyone> that this is NO Wednesday puzzle!
Dec-16-20  Olsonist: I hate Saturdays.
Dec-16-20
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  monopole2313: Got the first two moves simply because I saw no other reasonable way for White to proceed. Perhaps that justified the Wednesday selection. Georgiev gives this game in "Squeezing the Gambits," remarking only that the opening gave him no real advantage.
Dec-16-20
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  perfidious: <SchachAndAwe: Same puzzle as given two months ago on a Saturday with a rating of Very Difficult.....>

One man's Wednesday is another man's Saturday....

Dec-16-20  landshark: I went with 23.Bxd6 followed by 24. Bxf8.
No attempt to calculate out such a widespread tree of variations - I was impressed by 24.Qf4! which is stronger than taking the R. I was also unable in the short time I looked at it to find the best moves after White's 24th.
Dec-16-20  landshark: <drollere> Thanks for the feedback the other day - I appreciate your admonition to <do something> instead of <complain>.

We'll see what CG has to say, or do in response, if anything. I think they're overwhelmed since the untimely death of their founder several years back.

Dec-16-20
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  Check It Out: I found 23.Bxd6, it looks like a move you'd play in a game, not a key puzzle move. But then there were too many options for black's reply so I had no idea how the problem would continue.
Dec-16-20
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  Breunor: I wanted to see whether Stockfish preferred 24 Bxf8 of Qf4, I wet for Bxf8. I ran for 6 minutes, this is the result:

1) +2.78 (31 ply) 24.Bxf8 Kxf8 25.Qc1 Bf6 26.Rde1 Bd7 27.Qf4 Ne5 28.Qe3 Qe7 29.Qg3 Rb6 30.Rxe5 Bxe5 31.Rxe5 Qd6 32.Qe3 g5 33.g3 Rb4 34.Qc3 h6 35.f4 Kf7 36.Qe3 gxf4 37.Qxf4 Kg7 38.Kf2 a5 39.Qe3 Kf8 40.Bd3 f4 41.gxf4 a4 42.Qg3 axb3 43.axb3 Rxb3

2) +2.38 (31 ply) 24.Qf4 Rd8 25.Be7 Re8 26.d6+ Kh8 27.d7 Bxd7 28.Rxd7 Be5 29.Qd2 Rbb8 30.Bxc5 Bxh2+ 31.Kf1 Qa1+ 32.Qd1 Qxd1+ 33.Rxd1 Rxe2 34.Bxe2 Bf4 35.b4 Ra8 36.g3 Be5 37.Rd5 Bc3 38.Rd3 Be5 39.Ra3 Nf6 40.b5 Rc8 41.bxa6

Pretty close. Interesting that the computer does not play BxQ after 24 Bxf6 but prefers Kxf8.

Dec-16-20  Mayankk: I guess the reason why the engine may prefer Bxf8 Kxf8 over Qf4 ... Bxc5 and keeping the dark White Bishop since it keeps material equal while still retaining the power of a protected passed d5 pawn.

To the human eye though the c5 dark Bishop seems worth keeping as it allows White continued initiative, haranguing the Black Rooks and therefore cutting down the range of Black replies.

After Bxf8 Kxf8 the Branches are just too many.

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