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Valery Salov vs Veselin Topalov
Dos Hermanas (1997), Dos Hermanas ESP, rd 4, Apr-05
Modern Defense: King Pawn Fianchetto (B06)  ·  1-0



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Dec-13-07  Woodey: Instead of 10.dxe5, I played 10.d5 against the computer thinking it would give me the better game by blocking the scope of Blacks king bishop. That move turned out at best to be a drawish one whether Black opens the c-file or the f-file or neither because with sound play by Black I could find no way at all to break through decisively. My question is simply how would one know not to make this move through basic principles instead of learning it's not so good the hard way?
Dec-13-07  parisattack: I assume the computer at some point moved the KN and played ...f5? Standard in Kings Indian. White's play with d5 is on the Q-Side and with the pawn on c3 instead of c4 he's a little behind schedule to balance black's K-side attack. The balance between specific analysis and general principles in chess pretty muddy waters, for sure.
Dec-13-07  Woodey: In the actual game the moves were a bit different but principally the same. There followed, 1.e4 g6 2.d4 d6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Bd3 h6 5.0-0 Nc6 6.c3 Bg4 7.Nbd2 Bg7 8.Re1 0-0 9.Qc2 Nh5 10.h3 Bd7 11.Nf1 e5 12.d5 Ne7 13.Qd1 (giving the king bishop a flight path against 13Nf4 and also preventing 13f5 e.g. 13f5 14.exf5 gxf5 15.Nxe5. The aggressive 13.Qb3 was the move)13Nf6 (Now with no threat of the f-file opening up for the present moment and with the initiative in my favor I attempt to play for the c-file)14.Be3 a6 15.Ng3(to protect e4 again before going on) Kh7 16.Re2 Qe8 17.c4 Ba4 18.b3 Bd7 19.Rc1 b6 20.b4 Ba4 21.Qe1 Qd8 22.Bc2 Qd7 23.Qd1 Bxc2 24.Qxc2 a5 25.b5 -- Must close up Q side for 25.a3 axb4 26.axb4 Ra4 is to Blacks advantage. Now instead of playing for the kingside the computer decides to make waiting moves. Even so I could not muster up enough imagination to break through with any benefit. For example, opening up the f-file by capturing the e-pawn with my f-pawn only benefits Black by not only giving him e5 for his knight but also giving him a target in my backward e-pawn. Trying to open the f-file through exchange by Ng4 with doubled Rooks and the whole shebang only to have f6 hold. So Im pretty sure my play after 12.d5 was not the best in the world but Im also convinced that d5 was not the logical continuation in this opening for as you basically put it, I wasnt even ready to follow up with an attack on the queenside when Black on the other hand is ready to go. Thanks for that. Do you have any advice on my play here? I tried to play with a plan and tactics were lacking and now that I look back on this game I can see how so superficial my play actually was, pretty pathetic actually.
Mar-17-10  PhilFeeley: Kevin Spraggett writes of this game:

<Over the years I have personally witnessed some of the dirty tricks that Danailov has done. I remember very clearly when I was seconding Alexy Shirov at the Dos Hermanas tournament (1997) one such incident. Valery Salov had just defeated his protege (Topalov) in a long , boring game where it seemed that a draw was the likely result. Furious, Danailov went out to the hotel lobby and for the next few hours used the public telephone to call as many organizers as he could and bad-mouthed Salov continually: ''Salov is bad for chess! His style bores spectators and hurts sponsors. You should not invite Salov to your tournament if you know what is good for chess!'' etc

As we know, Salov eventually gave up chess because of the lack of invitations to the super-tournaments (though Salov in an interview last year blamed Kasparov on this!).>

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  Honza Cervenka: Nice torture of black. Well, Salov missed one opportunity to get huge advantage (37.b5!) after quite careless 36...f6 (36...Nd4 was correct move) from Topalov but he was heading into a Knight ending with slight advantage due to Pawn structure and there he smoothly outplayed his opponent.

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