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Aleksandar Matanovic vs Jonas Thorvaldsson
Forssa/Helsinki Zonal (1972), Forssa FIN, rd 3, Jul-27
Sicilian Defense: Kan. Modern Variation (B42)  ·  1-0



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May-12-04  Sadgrinner: Hmm...why does black win given this final position? Is this a time issue? If so, where do I look to find out if a side won for time reasons - because I've seen this sort of thing in other games as well. Please enlighten me!
May-12-04  Lawrence: <Sadg>, Junior suggests that White is over 6 pawns up so we must conclude that either the gamescore is wrong or incomplete or, as you suggest, White's flag fell. If it's the latter, no way of finding out unless someone has some info in a book.
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  tpstar: Black loses a full Rook after 22 ... Qc7/Qc8/Qb6 23. Nxb7 Qxb7 24. Bxd5+, so the most likely scenario is how the game score is correct but the result was entered incorrectly (1-0).
May-12-04  Lawrence: Not that it changes the result but while I was writing my post and reading <tpstar>'s Junior came up with the surprising

23.♘xc6 dxc6
24.♕c4 ♗d6
25.♗f4 ♖e4
26.♗xe4 ♖xe4 eval +7.56

Black gives away its Queen like that because the other lines are even worse!

May-14-04  Whitehat1963: <> Are you sure the game score is correct? Looks like white wins this one, as pointed out above.
Premium Chessgames Member OK, this is fixed now.
Apr-19-05  paladin at large: Is 17. Be4 the winning move? Black's knight just gets unhappier and unhappier. Very fine maneuvering and coordination of pieces by Torre. 7.....b4 and 14. ....exf5 look like bad moves by Spielmann.
Dec-15-07  AuDo: [Event "?"]
[Site "Helsinki"]
[Date "1972.??.??"]
[White "Matanovic,Alexander "]
[Black "Thorvaldsson "]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B42"]
[Round "3"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Bd3 Qc7 6. O-O b5 7. a4 b4 8. Nd2 Bc5 9. N2b3 Be7 10. Qe2 Nf6 11. f4 Nc6 12. Nxc6 Qxc6 13. e5 Nd5 14. f5 exf5 15. Bxf5 O-O 16. Qd3 g6 17. Be4 Bb7 18. Bh6 f5 19. Bf3 Rfe8 20. Rad1 Bc5+ 21. Kh1 Rxe5 22. Na5 1-0

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