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Samuel Reshevsky vs Rafael Vaganian
"San Rafael" (game of the day Dec-07-2014)
Skopje (1976), Skopje YUG, rd 5, Mar-??
French Defense: Tarrasch. Pawn Center Variation (C05)  ·  0-1

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Oct-26-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <Phony Benoni: Two roads diverged in a lonely wood, and the White king took both of them.>

This game is a great example of what can happen to your king if you develop it in the middle game.

Oct-27-15
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  Retireborn: Whenever I see this popular game, I'm always reminded of these two as well:-

L Christiansen vs Reshevsky, 1977

Piket vs Reshevsky, 1987

Such is the sad fate of the elderly chess master. Of course people younger than me probably think of Christiansen and Piket getting whupped by younger players too :)

Mar-04-17  kereru: Funny thing is Reshevsky didn't normally play 1.e4. Knowing that Vaganian was a French addict he obviously prepared this Kf2-g3 stuff... and he got slaughtered. By the way White is ok after 14.h3, giving the king an escape route.
Mar-19-17
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  HeMateMe: "The Vaganian Chronicles?"
Apr-22-18  ChessHigherCat: <KeyPusher> Didn't you say Reshevsky wasn't capable of beautiful games? I think this definitely qualifies as a beautiful game.
Nov-17-18  kereru: The line is actually ok, if White plays 14.h3. that move 14...e5!! is brilliant judgement by Vaganian. What an explosion of power.
Apr-21-19  ChessHigherCat: Let's see if I remember:

15...Ndxe5 16. dxe5 Nxe5 17. Nxe5 Bxe5+ 18. Bf4 Qe3+ 19. Kh4 Qf2+ 20. Bg3 Bf6+ 21. Kh5 g6+ 22. Kh6 Qe3+ 23. Bf4 Bg7+ 24. Kg5 Qe7#

There are probably faster ways but all paths leading to Roam(ing).

Apr-21-19  ChessHigherCat: No, SF says my line fails to 17. Nf4. I considered (or subconsciously remembered?) Bh4? but no way in hell would I have figured out the follow-up, even though I saw the game a year ago.
Apr-21-19  RookFile: Is the position after 15. dxe5 equal? A quick look with Stockfish appears to indicate this.
Apr-21-19  Walter Glattke: In the match I think for 18.Bxh7+ Kh8 19.gxf3 Qb4+ 20.Kg3 Kxh7 21.Qc2+ Kh8 22.Bd2, so white wins. 19.-Nxe5 20.Nd4 Qf6+ 21.Kg3 Kxh7 22.Rxe5, not 22.Bf4 Qg6+ 23.Kf2 Nd3+ - I think, after15.-Ndxe5 16.de5 Nxe5 (CHCat) white should try 17.Ned4 Qd6 18.Rxe5, but lose after 18.-Bxe5+ 19.Nxe5 Qxe5+ or 19.Kf2 Bd4+ 20.Kf1 Bg4 e.g. 21.h3!? Rxf3+ 22.gxf3 Bxh3+ 23.Ke2 Qh2+ 24.Ke1 Re8+ 25.Qe2 Rxe2+, although I see no immediately mate.
Apr-21-19
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  offramp: For Easter Sunday: one of the most difficult combinations in chess history.

The veil of the Temple being ripped open!

Apr-21-19  devere: A spectacular combination by Vaganian from start to finish. I suspect that home prep might have been involved, but there's probably no way to know now. As has been pointed out already, 14.h3! leaves White standing slightly better, and 15.dxe5 Ndxe5 16.Nxe5 Bxe5 17.h3! leaves White almost equal. But then we would have missed all the fun.
Apr-21-19
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  agb2002: Unforgettable game.
Apr-21-19
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  malt: First went for 15...Nd:e5 16.de5 N:e5
White could play 17.Ned4

Looked at 16...B:e5+ 17.Nf4 Bd6
(17.N:e5 Qf2# )
Did not seen the brilliant sac's
Beautiful game !

Apr-21-19
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  Richard Taylor: I've seen this several times but I still forgot most of it. I knew it arose from the French Tarrasch and that Reshevsky took the centre pawn.

I think that 12 Be3 was better.

I play the Tarrasch French as White and once I played f4 otherwise I prefer the main line with 5 Bd3 c5 6 c3 Nc6 7 Ne2...

5 f4 is o.k. and also I think Kf2 is also o.k. but White has to avoid the kind of thing that happened here as Black is always trying to break the centre open...

Apr-21-19
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  Breunor: Stockfish gives 8 Be3 a score of 0.37 and Ke2 0.04. So it isn't considered best (at least by this computer) but it isn't fatal.

As others have said, an error was missing 14 h3 putting the white king to safety, at a score of 0.35. Re1 is scored at -.15.

The computer views the decisive mistake was the obvious looking 15 fxe5 which scores to -2.5, while dxe5 is -.5.

The difference appears to be that with dxe5, after the exchanges on e5 (Ndxe5 Nxe5 Bxe5) white isn't in check and the king can still escape with h3!

Apr-21-19  feldheim: A magnificent game...very hard to follow. Having grown up in the Reshevsky era, it seemed that he was out of his solid 1. d4 comfort zone. In the old days, playing Sammy was like boxing with an opponent with a 6" reach advantage.
Apr-21-19  RookFile: <Bobby's old nemesis gets creamed here. This is why Bobby avoided the new generation (Karpov, Kasparov, Vaganian, Beliyavesky, etc) like a plague.>

Fischer did a lot of things, but chances are he didn't base his decision on whether to play on how a past his prime former competitor did.

Apr-21-19
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  drollere: how does 18. gxf3, Qf2+, Kg5 fail? it looks fearsome but it seems the K can slither back to d2 or f2 ...
Apr-21-19
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  beatgiant: <drollere>
On 18. gxf3 Qf2+ 19. Kg5 <h6+>, the king can't slither back toward d2 (20. Kf4 g5#), or toward f2 (20. Kh5 Qxf3+ and mate next).
Apr-21-19  mel gibson: I didn't know what to do.
Stockfish 10 is agreeing with the first text move.

It gives a small advantage to Black equivalent of a minor piece.

15.... Ndxe5

(15. .. Ndxe5 (♘d7xe5 ♘e2-f4 ♘e5xd3 ♕d1xd3 ♘c6-b4 ♕d3-b3 g7-g5 ♘f4xd5 ♕b6-d6+ ♖e1-e5 ♗f6xe5+ d4xe5 ♕d6xd5 ♕b3xb4 g5-g4 ♘f3-e1 ♕d5xe5+ ♗c1-f4 ♕e5-f5 ♗f4-e3 h7-h5 ♕b4-c5 b7-b6 ♕c5xf5 ♗c8xf5 ♖a1-d1 ♖a8-e8 ♗e3-d4 ♖e8-d8 ♖d1-d2 ♔g8-f7 ♗d4-c3 ♖d8xd2 ♗c3xd2 ♖f8-e8 ♔g3-f2 h5-h4 ♗d2-c3 ♔f7-g6 a2-a3 ♗f5-e4 ♗c3-d2 ♖e8-f8+ ♔f2-g1 ♔g6-f5 ♗d2-b4 ♖f8-g8 ♔g1-f1 g4-g3 h2xg3 h4xg3 a3-a4 ♖g8-h8 a4-a5 b6xa5 ♗b4xa5 ♖h8-h6) +3.29/39 172)

score for Black +3.29 depth 39.

Apr-21-19  sfm: <mel gibson
Stockfish 10 is agreeing with the first text move. It gives a small advantage to Black equivalent of a minor piece.>

Well, but you know, for some of us very strong players, such small advantages are usually juuust enough to engineer it into a win.

Nice analysis!

Apr-21-19
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  perfidious: If anyone wants to give me ±3.00 or so to start, have to say that, even after all these years away from the game, I might have a shot.

Signed, life 1200 player

Apr-21-19
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  OhioChessFan: I played it through and still have no idea what was going on.
May-05-19
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  HeMateMe: Terrific game! seeing 17...RxN and the threat of 18...Q-f2+, leading to forced mate was the hard part.
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