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John van der Wiel vs John van Baarle
"Behind the Wiel" (game of the day Feb-29-2008)
OHRA (1983), Arnhem NED, rd 2, Jul-16
Philidor Defense: Hanham Variation (C41)  ·  1-0

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Mar-18-05  PivotalAnorak: Great game by VdWiel !

7...♗e7? 8.♘e6!
If 9...gxh6 then 10.♕h5+ ♔f8 11.♗xe6 ♕e8 12.♕xh6#

11.f4! 13.f5!! 16.♖f8+!

I like the Philidor, but the Black player has to know how to react to the most aggressive lines - else he gets crushed.

Apr-06-06  PivotalAnorak: Krause vs Leussen, 1848
Feb-29-08  xrt999: xrt999: < PivotalAnorak: Great game by VdWiel ! 7...Be7? 8.Ne6!>

This line is questionable for black; better responses in this line are 7...Bc5, 7...Qc7 , or 7...Qf6

Thats not really saying much, though, because black is already on the defensive and has a shaky position.

Feb-29-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: Black missed the simple 10...g6, which abruptly stops white's attack.


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Feb-29-08  Samagonka: Impressive attack..a nice way to settle the score quickly.
Feb-29-08  D4n: White played for the kill and didn't hold back...
Feb-29-08
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  kevin86: I've always seen the Philidor's Defense as a dog. Why open a line with one move and block it the next? Why not develop another piece and defend or counter-attack with it?

At least the move 2...d6 is better than the Damiano's Defense 2...f6,which is both tactically and stretegically unsound.

Feb-29-08
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  playground player: I like the Philidor, too. I see a lot of it on the Internet, and most of my opponents who use it, use it too timidly and wind up with a bad game. But it doesn't have to be that way. I've learned a lot by studying Philidor games by Morphy, Koltanowsky, and Antoshin. When I play the Philidor, it often seems that my opponent lulls himself into a false sense of security, expecting an easy game as soon as he sees 2... d6.
Feb-29-08  JG27Pyth: Nice attack from Wiel... the f pawn push was great. f4, f5, fxd6, all superb.

<Jimfromprovidence>Gosh, g6 sure does look simple and effective... I guess that isn't surprising though, losing in 11 moves pretty much implies mistakes were made.

Feb-29-08  Bobwhoosta: After g6 Qxe5 looks nice. bf6 qf4 nxc4 e5 nxe5 nc3, and i don't see blacks king getting out of the center anytime soon. Development will be difficult I'd rather have the white (I prefer having the pressure) although white is still down a piece, which has to count for something.
Feb-29-08  yell0wd0g: I've recently switched to playing Philidor's defense in order to improve my positional play. I think 3 ...Nd7 is inaccurate; better seems to be 3 ... Nf6. If 4 dxe5 then Nxe4 5 Qd5 Nc5 leads back into lines which are edgy but maybe equal. On the other hand, with 3...Nd7 it often seems that Black never reaches equality unless White somehow loses the thread.

In this game, c6, which is thematic to restrict White's queen's knight, is played too early. Or am I missing something?

Jun-19-17
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  offramp: I like the way John van der Wiel disperses his forces.
Jun-19-17
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  FSR: 16.Rf8+ and 17.Qf7#
Jun-19-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: Fun. I rejected a number of alternatives before finding the win. :)
Jun-19-17  sudoplatov: I may be missing something but doesn't 16 Rg7 also win (though slower)?

On 16... Kf7 (or Kf8) then 17 Qf7 and
on 16... Qg7 then 17 e6, Be6, 18 Be6 Qf7 19 Qf7 seems the slowest mate.

I didn't see Rf8 actually.

Jun-19-17
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  FSR: <sudoplatov> 16.Rg7+ is much inferior to 16.Rf8+. Black can stagger on with 16...Qxg7 17.e7+ Nxc4 18.e8=Q+ Bf8.
Jun-19-17  Kafelnikov64: 16.Rg7+,Qxg7
17.e7+,Nxc4
18.Qe8+,Qf8
19.Qxf8#
Jun-19-17  dfcx: <FSR: <sudoplatov> 16.Rg7+ is much inferior to 16.Rf8+. Black can stagger on with 16...Qxg7 17.e7+ Nxc4 18.e8=Q+ Bf8.>

White should play 18.Qe8+ Qf8 19.Qxf8#

Jun-19-17  stst: <..16.Rg7+,Qxg7
17.e7+,Nxc4

should try
17.Qe8+ then only Qf8 will save
then e7 dis+ etc still win, but slower yes

Jun-19-17  lost in space: I love Mondays!

16. Rf8 and 17. Qf7 mate

Jun-19-17  lost in space: Had also thoughts about 16. Rg7 but Rf8 is so much simpler - fitting better my brain-status
Jun-19-17
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  agb2002: White has a pawn for a bishop.

Black threatens Qxh5.

The queen should be on f7 instead of the rook. Therefore, 16.Rf8+ and 17.Qf7#.

Jun-19-17
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  FSR: Good point, everyone.
Jun-19-17
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  Once: Fritzie confirms that 16. Rg7+ is mate in 4 while 16. Rf8+ is mate in 2.

One point to watch is 16. Rg7+ Qxg7 17. e7+ Nxc4


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Now the temptation is to magic a second queen onto the board with 18. e8=Q+. Like cheesecake, who can resist a second piece of queen?

Except in this instance we ought to think about our waistlines. The instant coronation would be met by 18...Bf8 and black has a lot of pieces to compensate for white's extra queen.

The win from this position (which others have already mentioned) is 18. Qe8+ Qf8 19.Qxf8#


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Good little puzzle.

Jun-19-17  stacase: White's Queen needs to occupy f7 instead of the Rook. Hmmm, how to move the Rook and not lose tempo?

16. Rf8+ does the job nicely.

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