Nov-13-02 | | drukenknight: not sure that it is black who can force the draw here. White can play 8 c4 and keep the fun going. |
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Nov-13-02 | | ksadler: It is White, not Black who can force the draw here (thus why many avoid playing Larsen's .. Nd7). |
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Nov-13-02 | | AgentRgent: KS, if all white can do is force a draw then 4. Nf3 isn't very convincing against the Alekhine's. |
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Nov-13-02 | | refutor: i'm with you agentrgent...if ...Nd7 gives at least a draw everytime v. the modern alekhine (white gets in trouble if he plays differently...at least that's what the opening explorer says), i'd play the alekhine exclusively :) win as white, draw as black that's what i say |
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Nov-13-02 | | AgentRgent: That's a good plan Refutor, except 4. Nf3 isn't forced, you'd better be ready to face the 4 pawns attack... Then again, I DO play the Alekhine exclusively.. :) |
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Nov-13-02 | | refutor: 4 pawns, puh...that's an accident waiting to happen for white as far as i'm concerned. although i will never give up my beloved caro-kann, sicilian and 1.e4 e5, IMO the best way to attack the alekhine is the exchange line...if white plays carefully and accurately he has an advantage in space, mobility and development and black can have trouble stirring up counterplay...just my 2 cents |
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Nov-13-02 | | drukenknight: what about 9 Bd3 is that a better way to keep it alive? |
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Nov-13-02 | | AgentRgent: Refutor, actually I'll agree with you, the Exchange is probably the best way to go for White (I know it's the most challenging for me as Black). I'll give you advantage in space and mobility, but not development.. after cxd6 or exd6 Black is ahead in development. One might argue the knight on b6 is poorly developed, but an Alekhine's player is comfortable with it (or else he'd better change openings!). I don't feel that exd6 or cxd6 leaves Black already worse,the fight is just beginning. |
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Nov-13-02 | | AgentRgent: DK, 9 Bd3 N7f6 and I think black has little to show for the sacrifice.. |
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Nov-13-02 | | drukenknight: Agent that looks dangerous no? 10 Bg7+ |
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Nov-14-02 | | AgentRgent: DK I think that's answered by 10...hxg7 and now white is 2 pieces down... |
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Nov-14-02 | | drukenknight: oh hell, I meant on the 8th move, so that whites Q is still on h5. 8 d3 I think is what I meant. Sorry, trying to do too much at once. |
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Nov-14-02 | | AgentRgent: DK, If 8. Bd3 then N7f6 is still the answer.. |
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Nov-16-02 | | drukenknight: I suppose Qe2 is next |
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Nov-16-02 | | pawntificator: It's unthinkable to me that black can be so exposed and there is no way for white to take advantage! |
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Nov-16-02 | | refutor: believe it...there's lots of times that white can even give up bishop+knight on f7 for rook+pawn (same material) and have no attack on the exposed king...it should be possible that after saccing wildly on f7 there is no way for white to take advantage |
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May-11-06 | | MorphyMatt: Yeah, black should take the draw, unlike Bent Larsen
over ambitious 10. Kd6!? in Fischer vs Larsen, 1966. |
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Jul-24-09 | | WhiteRook48: what nonsense |
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