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David J Ledger vs Peter K Wells
Smith & Williamson ch-GBR (2001), Scarborough ENG, rd 2, Jul-31
Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07)  ·  0-1



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Feb-05-07  Ashram64: the usual monday puzzle..sac sac sac!! ;) the ego booster monday!
Feb-05-07  Ashram64: sucks to be's like when everything is hanging by a thread..then all came loose.. no way white can save a piece..might as well give black a niffty sac checkmate
Feb-05-07  mulondab: Too simple
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  laskereshevsky: <consul: Ok, i got it! But i'm concerned with the problem: is 31. Qf4 wrong? What about Qf2 instead?>

Th problem is: 31. ..Rxd1,
and the white cant get back the N (32. gxh ) cause 32. ..Qd6+.

Feb-05-07  drkodos: mulondab: They're only simple if you know them...
Feb-05-07  johnsbrother: Got it quickly. I liked the knight move on move 30.
Feb-05-07  gchristopher: If: 31. gxh4 Qd6+, then 32. Qg3 ... How exactly is black winning?
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  laskereshevsky: <gchristopher: If: 31. gxh4 Qd6+, then 32. Qg3 ... How exactly is black winning?>

32. .. Rh1+
and if.. 33. Kg2 Rg1+

Feb-05-07  cominatcha: David Ledger is no patzer. He has a 2300 plus rating.
Feb-05-07  Grampmaster: <JustAFish> & <aqmaclanahan>

Someone needs to fire up the computer and check out 31.gxh4 as it certainly seems to avoid the quick knockout to me.

If the response to 31.gxh4!? is 31...Qd6+ then the following line looks interesting:

32.Qg3 Qxc5
33.Qxe1 Qxc2+
34.Kg1 Qxa2
35.Qe7+ Qf7
36.Qxf7 Kxf7

Now white still has an extra knight to try and offset his deficient pawn structure.

Can you experts or those with computers shed some light on this variation?

Feb-05-07  Grampmaster: Okay! <laskerevshevsky> just answered my question. Thanks!
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  laskereshevsky: Youre welcome, Grampmaster....

BTW in the "Neurons vs. Silicons" mondial war, im for the firsts.... talking easy: i dont use computer ( for solve the puzzles...) BYE

Feb-05-07  YouRang: Found the 31...Rh1+ deflection pretty fast, setting up the mate in 2.

Interestingly (IMO), if the black pawn had been at h5, there would have been an even faster mate:

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31...Qh3+ 32. Kxh3 Rh1#

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  kevin86: I suffered a little chess blindness and missed this one! I thought that ♕h3+ followed by ♖h1 was mate-I missed the escape via ♔g4.

A dunce cap for me!

Feb-05-07  simontemplar44: Yay, I got one.. bout time!
Feb-05-07  uuft: Note to self: I do not totally suck!
Feb-05-07  Fisheremon: 31. Qd5 Re2+ 32. Kg1 Qxd5 33. Rxd5
Nf3+ 34. Kf1 Rxc2 35. Rd7+ Kf6 36. Rxa7 Nd2+ 37. Ke1 Kf5 38. Nf2: how would Black proceed to a win ?
Feb-05-07  Themofro: Got it, common, but nice and very useful motif.
Feb-05-07  micartouse: *Groan* This took me too long. I've had some Mondays that take me more than a minute but I refuse to give up until I solve them since I've never missed a Monday!
Feb-05-07  ianD: Completely forced and very simple. Thank God it's Monday!
Feb-05-07  Mountainman1: White should have given up when he got checked. Talk about ineviteble.
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  playground player: Boy, oh, boy! Internet connection severed all weekend long, finally restored this afternoon--just in time for the Monday puzzle. Nice to know I didn't forget how to solve Monday puzzles, in the interim.
Feb-05-07  micartouse: <White should have given up when he got checked. Talk about ineviteble.> Many players believe it's rude to resign instead of playing out the remaining forced moves of a mating combo (although some think it's rude to continue). It's a matter of taste, but I'm certain White wasn't being stubborn.

Personally, I would play on until mate as White after ... Rh1+.

Feb-05-07  IMDONE4: good confidence booster on monday. I wonder why white would play it out.
Feb-05-07  LaSmitedCrab: bam. one second.
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