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|Mar-26-07|| ||YouRang: Funny, I was just listening to the Mamas and Papas on my way in to work this morning.|
Anyway, a nice Monday mate-in-two that seems easier than it really is because most of us have been conditioned to look for queen sacs on Monday.
|Mar-26-07|| ||kevin86: A usual Monday problem:forced mate in two and a queen sac.|
The GOTD had a queen sac also. Must be a good day to give up the queen.
|Mar-26-07|| ||WarmasterKron: I'm with <An Englishman>. I saw Rxb7 and a win is a win, right?|
|Mar-26-07|| ||EboLedder: It's true, as a lot of people have said, that Monday puzzles are simple. Maybe too simple.|
But the value of simplicity is subtle, and we ignore it at our peril. I spent several minutes tangled up in 33 Rxb7, and it appears that a lot of other people did, too. Our mistake was overlooking the simpler, more elegant kill shot of 34 Ra5#--a classic two-rook mate, the first mate I learned. Invisible because it was too simple.
Mondays have often reminded me of this principle, which in chess deserves always to be remembered.
|Mar-26-07|| ||Amarande: Another interesting example on the king being shoved off to the corner to die - Janowski vs H W Trenchard, 1898|
And yeah, I first considered Rxb7 myself (it is, at first sight, the most logical move), then it occurred to me that Qxa7+ is a much more efficient manner of execution :)
|Mar-26-07|| ||YouRang: <I saw Rxb7 and a win is a win, right?> Probably. After 33. Rxb7 Bc5+ 34. Kf1 Qxb7 35. Rxb7 Rxb7 36. Qd7 Rb8, we have this (diagram:white to move):
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Materially, it's about even, but Black is completely tied up by the bishop & queen, so Black should go down after some fight.
Still, it hardly compares with mate-in-2.
|Mar-26-07|| ||Themofro: The improtant detail is that the b-file is blocked off by whites other rook, as such just need a rook checkmate on the a file, then it's easy.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||el ladron: hmmm... very easy one. I let my 8 year old sister have a look this morning and it took her about 30 seconds.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||playground player: No one ever prospers by having tripled pawns.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||Timex: Easy monday puzzle. My 4 year old bro found it instantly. Black had tripled pawns in the center.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||TrueBlue: I think black played like a girl :)|
|Mar-26-07|| ||newton296: love the daily puzzle but there should be points and prizes for the winner every week. to make it more fun !|
|Mar-26-07|| ||loftus: complaining that monday is too easy is about as useful as complaining that sunday is too hard!|
|Mar-26-07|| ||unferth: <After 33. Rxb7 Bc5+ 34. Kf1 Qxb7 35. Rxb7 Rxb7 36. Qd7 Rb8, we have this (diagram:white to move):
Materially, it's about even, but Black is completely tied up by the bishop & queen, so Black should go down after some fight.>|
hmm ... not sure what white's next is there, but it looks to me like after Nc8-Nd6-Ka7, black gets untangled pretty easily. assuming white takes the exchange back before the rook can move, black's got R+B+N for the queen & several pawns. I confess I've given it only a quick look, but to me, it doesn't look easy for white at all.
|Mar-26-07|| ||mrvocab: If this were bughouse I would play 33. Nb6# !|
|Mar-26-07|| ||Gryznx: If you decided to take on b7 I say you get no credit. That's like snatching a pawn in a position where you can win the queen.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||Fezzik: The only reason I can see this game sneaking into the database is that Black has a rating over 2200. Black played about as woodenly and badly as a master can possibly play. |
Are you sure the rating was right?
|Mar-26-07|| ||MostlyAverageJoe: Actual conversation with my 6-year old:
He: Daddy, this puzzle is already solved!
Me: What do you mean?
He: There's nothing to think about! Queen takes Knight, King takes Queen, checkmate with the Rook.
|Mar-26-07|| ||psmith: I showed this to my 1 week old daughter and she solved it. She was asleep at the time, too.|
|Mar-26-07|| ||Tactic101: <psmith> You're kidding, right? I doubt even the Polgar sisters could solve this one before even turning 1 year old. To me, this is just another anology of how easy this puzzle is. I can visualize a 6 year old solving this one, but a 1 week old kid? Give me a break....|
|Mar-27-07|| ||Voxation: I showed this to my friend, she's so little, and she even solved it.|
|Mar-27-07|| ||psmith: <Tactic101> Of course I'm kidding.|
|Mar-27-07|| ||Tactic101: I'm not saying that people here are being untruthful about these incidents where their younger brothers and sisters solved this puzzle quickly, but some of them are definately ridiculous.|
|Mar-27-07|| ||Tactic101: So you were joking? Thought so. The puzzle is easy, but not that easy.|
|Mar-30-07|| ||gambitfan: presque un mat "du couloir"!|
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