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Henry L Terrie vs Emory Tate
US Open (2001), Framingham USA, rd 9, Aug-12
English Opening: King's English. General Variation (A21)  ·  0-1

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Jun-21-05  tjshann: Pretty obvious, a nice finish nevertheless.
Jun-21-05  Ultra: Easy one.
Jun-21-05  superiorNOshow: Yes very easy. I assume it is either Emory A Tate week, or perhaps a few puzzles by Maurice Ashley in the upcomings days will show it is minority players week.
Jun-21-05  boofi: Aww, I never find these easy ^_^
Jun-21-05  superiorNOshow: edit: <upcomings> upcoming
Jun-21-05  Conan the Librarian: I got it, but it was the last thing I checked! I checked the tuff stuff first, like puting two pawns on the 6th rank, the squeeze play, or exchanginig rooks and having the outside passed QR pawn, one of those Lasker type 30 move endgame problems.
Jun-21-05  Akavall: Very Nice, but easy.
Jun-21-05  yoozum: I love Tuesday problems.
Jun-21-05
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  WannaBe: Okay, 29. Rx and Rx (Yeah, medicine prescriptions here.) should next for white be 30. g3, does that help?
Jun-21-05  chesswonders: The fastest I could get. Of course white did not see this tactic few moves earlier. I feel these things are easy to solve, when someone says, "ok it's a puzzle, white / black to move and win". But if I end up in this kind of position while playing a game, then it is highly unlikely that I would find out the moves with the same ease!
Jun-21-05  melianis: easy one, in the same position, white to move and draw ? Seems to me that there has to be one, but to see it to the repetition is another matter.
Jun-21-05  Saph: I agree, chesswonders.
Jun-21-05  be3292: <WannaBe> Sure -- even gxh3 will "help"
Jun-21-05  trumbull0042: Easier than yesterday's.
Jun-21-05  erimiro1: What a blunder - 31.R-d5?? He had many chances to draw by -31.g:h3 and 32. f3
Jun-21-05  prinsallan: Check and the H-pawn cant be stopped, 5 secs to figure this one ^^
Jun-21-05
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  OhioChessFan: Strange how people find some puzzles so simple that I miss. I saw this in less than a second, but have seen others where everyone commented how easy it was and I couldn't get it.
Jun-21-05  aginis: i'm a bit confused why everyonr thinks white is losing and needs to draw! 31. gxh3 gxh3 32.Rxd6 Re4 33.Rd3! Rxc4 34.f3! (34.Rxh3? Ra4!) and now the king takes his time with the h pawn. if 34...Ra4 35.Rd2 Rc4 36.Rc2 Rh4 37.Kf2 Kd7 38.Kg3 Rh6 39.Re2! and the f pawn should be able to waltz right down the middle.

<melianis> if it is white to play, 1.Rxe5 dxe5 2.gxh3 gxh3 3.f3 Kd7 4.Kf2 Ke6 5.Kg3 Kf5 6.Kxh3 Kf4 7.Kg2

white has an easy win with an outside passed pawn for example

7...Kg4 8.Kf2 Kf4 9.a4 b6 10.Ke2 Kg5 (10...a6 11.Kf2 a5 Ke2 just weakens the queenside)11.Ke3 Kf5 12.h5 Kf6 13.Ke4 Ke6 14.h6 Kf6 15.h7 Kg7 16.Kxe5 Kxh7 17.f4 Kg8 18.f5 Kf7 19.f6 Kf8 20.Ke6 Ke8 21.f7 Kf8 22.Kf6 a6 23.Ke6 a5 24.Kf6 b5 25.axb5! a4 26.b6 a3 27.b7 a2 28.b8=N a1=Q <29.Nd7#>

Jun-21-05  aginis: <OhioChessFan>
i couldn't agree with you more.
because the postion is handed to us on a platter people are only impressed by a particularly subtle finesse. However in a blitz game i think many peoeple who got it in under 5 sec would in those same 5 seconds play Kc7 and lose i described in the post above and this really is a simple puzzle.

the difficulty of a puzzle should be judged not on the time it takes to figure out the first move, but the time it takes to prove that all variations lead to a winning position!

the most common way to lose a game of chess is to start an attack that fails because you missed a finesse in your opponent's defense.

Jun-21-05  2ndNature: <aginis>
I couldn't disagree with you less ;)

I played a match yesterday and had an easy win almost in hand. I was up a bishop and couple of pawns and blundered. I think time pressure had its toll on my (lack of) thinking about otherwise winning position. Yes, todays puzzle was an easy one (for me, the easiest I can remember...) but that hardly proves anything about your OTB abilities.

Jun-21-05  Infin1ty: I think the puzzle was very easy, up to a point where you could call it to easy. However, the puzzle being the puzzle, I really enjoy being introduced to a new game each day. And eventhough the puzzle was a bit to easy for my taste, replaying the (in my opinion very nice) game was lots of fun :)
Jun-21-05  Shubes82: Question...does anyone have a book or site they recommend that highlights rook and pawn endgames. I am a semi-beginner and have been studying openings like the giucco piano and such. Thus, i seem to find myself in many endgames with only rok and pawns, like this game, and also find that i blunder the games away because i dont know the principles. Any help would be great. thanks!
Jun-21-05  alayo: <superiorNOshow:> "Yes very easy. I assume it is either Emory A Tate week, or perhaps a few puzzles by Maurice Ashley in the upcomings days will show it is minority players week." Who are the "minority players"? On the Internet there are no such things as minorities. Maybe in the US some are deluded into dividing the world into majorities and minorities....remnants of daft bigotted ideologies.
Jun-21-05
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  Richard Taylor: I would never miss this in any type of game - saw this in 1 nano second or was it a pico? That said I have missed a lot (and it's good to remember ideas like this in this game - I actually played a Queen sac (similar to this combination) which deflected a rook and enabled me to push my pawn - and my opponent couldn't get back to stop it queening so from a 2 rooks v Q the game went to Q v Rook and she resigned - all because of a blunder (it should have been a draw)-as in this game- and I worked out some very complex ones -some I dont even attempt -and sometimes miss very easy ones -but I kind of know this thematic method (ahve used similar - as I said I sacked a Q ) - everyone here would get it if they studied a good book of tactics -and went trough many comnbinations - the most interesting games are those where the postion is not solvable per se -where an attack is generated - and in fact the defender may be able to win or draw - there are or have been some games in which it has been not possible to prove whether they were a win or not - I think it was Gligoric - Fischer reached a (some) position(s) in the Najdorf that no one has fathomed and many others such as Tal have played some very fascinating and complex sacrifices (where the position becomes unclear)- a true "puzzle" is - what plan to adopt? I get that wrong mostly (a lot).

This was an unusal approach to the opening -never seen this method played...interesting game

Jun-21-05  melianis: <aginis> Ok, anyway you had to see the white king being able to take the pawn on e5. The same sort of play happens probably also after 1.Rxe5 fxe5 2.g3 any 3.f3, no need to go into deltails. Exchange everything and have a outside passed pawn, fine.

h3-pawn was there for sometime, nice.

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