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|Feb-20-12|| ||Limpin Kt: <morphyshine> i'm not sure if capturing d rook on f6 s a good thing to do- for preserving material refraining from exchanges to give d losing side some chances. What about Rf6,kg7/kf8.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||Limpin Kt: <sevenseaman> yes ur correct. I would like to add that it is thought that chess probably originated in india with some differances in rules like restriction of queens mobility, circumscribed mobility of bishop, single advance of pawns, no castling and special move for king. Its called CHATURANGA (CHATUR=four in sanskrit) signifying d four type of forces. Den chess or rather chaturanga got spread to persia and den it got some changes incorporated. Checkmate s derived thus from d persian word- shah<check>möth<death>.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||morfishine: <Limpin Kt> Obviously 19...exf6 loses to 20.Nxe7+ forking the Queen. Black can only defend <e7>, in my view. On 19...Kf8 winning for White is 20.Qd2. If now 20...exf6 21.Qh6+ mates after 21...Ke8 22.Qh8 or 21...Kg8 22.Nf6##|
On 19...Kg7, White has all the play. For example white could simply hold onto the piece with <20.Rf2> threatening 21.Nxe7 winning an exchange or being a whole rook ahead.
If now 20...Re8 21.Raf1 Be6 22.Bg4! Bxg4 and white breaks in with 23.Rxf7+ followed by 24.Qh6 mating.
And in the above line if Black declines the Bishop with 22...Bxd5 then white plays <23.exd5> and now Blacks Queen is attacked, the Rook on <c8> is attacked and <Rxf7+> is threatened...thats just too much for Black to handle.
|Feb-20-12|| ||alexrawlings: Loving the star wars references today <Once>. By any chance were you influenced to use star wars as a theme after listening to the Chris Moyles show on radio one this morning? He's a big star wars fan and it was his birthday show this morning so they had some people dress up as darth vader and storm troopers and visit him! It was also on the bbc red button this morning...|
Anyway, cheers and looking forward to your next post.
|Feb-20-12|| ||Whitehat1963: Took me far too long.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||Penguincw: Good start to the week. Removes the defender of e7, where the knight can plant a royal fork. In the end, white will get a queen and bishop for a rook and knight, which is some serious profitting.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Simple. 19.Rxf6! wins a piece, for if Black re-captures, then 20.Ne7+, forks King and Queen.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||JG27Pyth: Fork threat means the bishop hangs -- simple enough... but the freaky part is the letters C de F all in a row like that in the black player's name.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||mohannagappan: i love to hear u mr.sevenseasmen i am a tamilian i love chess from my childgood i am having so many friends in north india but i am not a professional chess player|
|Feb-20-12|| ||master of defence: What happens after 15... Qxb4?|
|Feb-20-12|| ||Limpin Kt: <master of defence> Qb4 wil be a strategical mistake as it leads to a positon after Rb1 Q(any) Rb7 in which white has infiltrated d seventh rank. White wil eventually build up winning attack over queen side. Such considerations are so natural that experienced players won't even pause to verify it tactically in most of d cases. In the given positon b4 was d table turning move, as otherwise black will eventually open d c file rook and build up troublesome pressure. Also notice that b4 starts restriction of opponent's queens mobility which resulted eventually to misplacement of d queen resulting in d catastrophic blow on king's side.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||chrisowen: <alexrawlings> <Once> Co-mingle back to rf6 you little frulis it ticket in tempt it qxb4 inform either c7 in manner get up 16.bxf6 bxf6 17.nd5 qc6 18.fxg6 hxg6 19.rxf6 in ferret ok in large it her betroth in exact it ne7! In anyways it horde in vester b8 but not by much in meld big break in knight it fine weakness after a5 in c7 o u no sill yah good analogy to!|
|Feb-20-12|| ||ajile: White Rohde to an easy victory in this game.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||bachbeet: Got it, though it took me longer than it should have. Probably because I was looking for a quick mate at first. Then I saw the queen capture.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||waustad: I did the same, looking for some sort of mate after taking with the knight on f6 following the exchange sac. The I saw the fork.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||waustad: I would suspect they've used to obvious "ashore" pun before.|
|Feb-20-12|| ||lost in space: I love Mondays!
Main line: 19. Rxf6 exf6 20. Nxe7+ and Black is lost after Nxc6
Side line: 19. Rxf6 Qxd5 20. Rxg6+! fxg6 21. Qxd5+ Kh8 22. Rf1 and White has a HUGE advantage
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|Feb-20-12|| ||Patriot: If you haven't voted already, please go to <hms123>'s page and nominate someone who is not a member for the <Rinus> award. It is in honor of <Rinus>'s memory.|
A few years back I was a non-member and was nominated this award and was given a 1 year free membership to <CG>! It was much appreciated and I'm sure the next winner will feel the same way. It's a way of saying "Thanks!" to your favorite kibitzer(s). Please do not miss this opportunity.
|Feb-20-12|| ||BOSTER: One opinion is
<If black accepts the b4(move 15) white plays Rb1 and Rb7. But it's probably the best thing for black to do>.
Another opinion is
<Qb4 will be a strategical mistake ,... experienced players won't pause to verify it tactically>.
Who is right?
|Feb-20-12|| ||pericles of athens: nasty knight fork. love it!|
|Feb-21-12|| ||M.Hassan: "Very Easy" White to play 19.?
Forces are equal.
and Forking Queen
If Black does not take Rook and assume plays the following line:
White still has great advantage
|Feb-21-12|| ||M.Hassan: <Consul: I'm wondering what happens if 15...Qxb4 instead of Qc7>|
I was wondering too and I did theoretical study as below:
Now, if the Rook dares to penetrate inside Black camp,
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Black looses a Rook for 3 pawns, his King is completely exposed but his Queen is safe and sound. Any comments? apart from 20...Nxh7 which is obviously wrong
|Feb-21-12|| ||kevin86: The rook sac sets up a family check at e7---
A twist:win the queen instead of sacrificing the queen on Monday.
|Mar-24-12|| ||rannewman: Sevenseaman, while the word "shech" is parsian (means something very similer to "king"), the word "malka" is in hebrew. It can be found in the bible, and is the female form of the word "melech" (king).|
|Aug-26-13|| ||FSR: <M.Hassan> 15...Qxb4 looks better than 15...Qc7. However, in your line 15...Qxb4 16.Rb1 Qa5 17.Rxb7 Bc6 18.Rxe7 Kf8, White can improve with either 18.Rxa7 or 19.Rxa7. Better I think is 17...Rc7 18.Rxc7 Qxc7 19.Bxf6 Bxf6 20.Nd5 Qc5 21.fxg6 hxg6 22.Nxf6+ exf6 23.Rxf6 Be6. White wins a pawn, but Black has chances to hold.|
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