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Laszlo Gonda vs Cedric Paci
FSIMA December (2001), Budapest HUN, rd 8, Dec-08
Hungarian Opening: Indian Defense (A00)  ·  1-0



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  Penguincw: Thursday puzzle, but hey, there's only 4 pieces on the board. Maybe I can solve it!

Nope. Hard to tell what is considered "came close" for this puzzle. But in the lines I thought of in my head, black was able to draw by taking advantage of the bishop being in the right coloured corner.

Rough endgame for black - was up 2 pawns and had the bishop vs. knight.

A R vs. B ending is only won 17.8% of the time, per Endgame Explorer: R vs B.

Jan-31-19  ChessHigherCat: Probably would have been too hard for me if the puzzle had started just a couple moves earlier
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  watwinc: What’s wrong with 94 Re4, threatening Re8 and Ra4?
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  al wazir: Easy, not medium.
Jan-31-19  stacase: Takes only one move to force Black's King to the death square and then all the Rook has to do is threaten the Bishop and mate in one move. Easy Peazy. Too bad it took me way too long to figure it out. I would have screwed it up over the board.
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  agb2002: White has a rook for a bishop.

Black threatens Bxe7.

The black king is on one of the right corners to draw but the bishop is badly placed because it allows 94.Ra7+ Kb8 95.Rd7, with the double threat Rd8# and Rxd6, winning.

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  agb2002: <watwinc: What’s wrong with 94 Re4, threatening Re8 and Ra4?>

94... Bg3 or 94... Bh2 draw.

Jan-31-19  saturn2: I saw 94. Ra7+

94..Kb8 95. Rd7
threatening king and bishop.

Jan-31-19  Walter Glattke: 94.Re4 Bg3 95.Ra4+ Kb8 96.Rg4 Bc7+ / 95.Re8+ Bb8 96.Re7 Bg3 97.Ra7+ Kb8 98.Rg7 mate in xxx moves
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  ajk68: I was confused by the 2.5 star rating. The solution seemed straightforward and I couldn't see anything I was missing.

My reasoning was that we need the king to obstruct the bishop's access to b7 (to avoid stalemate). Once I had that it was obvious to then threaten mate thereby winning the bishop.

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  Honza Cervenka: <Walter Glattke: 94.Re4 Bg3 95.Ra4+ Kb8 96.Rg4 Bc7+ / 95.Re8+ Bb8 96.Re7 Bg3 97.Ra7+ Kb8 98.Rg7 mate in xxx moves>

94.Re4(?) Bg3 95.Re8+ Bb8 96.Re7 Bg3 97.Ra7+ Kb8 98.Rg7 Bf2+ and there is no mate.

Jan-31-19  AlicesKnight: A classic draw ruined by 93... Bd6. Found the 2-move reply; the B cannot check the K away because it is too close.
Jan-31-19  schachfuchs: This is far from being 'medium', but I won't complain ;-)
Jan-31-19  malt: Got 94.Ra7+ Kb8 95.Rd7 Be7 96.R:e7
Jan-31-19  TheaN: Thursday 31 January 2019


R vs B endgame? Interesting choice here. In many cases is this clash a draw but there are some practical chances for the rook. Exactly here does White have that:

<94.Ra7+ Kb8 95.Rd7 #5> Black cannot both save his King and Bishop.

Jan-31-19  zb2cr: A little easier than it seems at first look.

94. Ra7+, Kb8; 95. Rd7! Black has only five possible ways of dealing with the mate threat, and they all lose, going into the textbook K+R vs. K win. Other Bishop moves transparently don't deal with the threat of Rd8#.

A. 95. ... Kc8; 96. Rxd6. Book win.

B. 95. ... Ka8 (hoping for carelessness on White's part; 96. Rxd6. Book win, again.

C. 95. ... Bc7+; 96. Rxc7, Ka8; 97. Rc8#.

D. 95. ... Bc5+; 96. Kxc5, Kc8; 97. Kc6, Kb8; 98. Kb6, Kc8; 99. Rd1, Kb8; 100. Rd8#.

E. 95. ... Be7; 96. Rxe7, Kc8; 97. Kc6, Kb8; 98. Re8+, Ka7; 99. Rc8, Ka6; 100. Ra8#.

Jan-31-19  TheaN: <Feb-04-04: Sneaky: MiniSkirt, the idea is the same no matter where the bishop moves. 93...♗f4 94.♖a7+ ♔b8 95.♖f7, threatening both ♖f8# and ♖xf4.

Feb-04-04: weary willy: er .... Be3+

Feb-04-04 Our sincere apologies for presenting a puzzle with no solution.

Feb-04-04 Sneaky: Hmmm... I thought I knew it all and I knew nothing! I learned something here too.>

We all know what happened here ^^.

Jan-31-19  vonKrolock: Instructive, as it can appear in OTB situations.

And elegant too, as it's a unique manoeuvre.

Same idea in this Pacman style grotesque

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Jan-31-19  sfm: "Same idea in this Pacman style grotesque" Funny!
Jan-31-19  dTal: Yay, I got this easily! My moment of satisfaction before I'm back down to earth tomorrow.
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  mjmorri: This ending is surprisingly difficult to hold especially for an amateur. I have had mixed results from the weaker side. Never played the stronger side.
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  whiteshark: <E06 Catalan> by transposition.
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  dorsnikov: What was wrong with 94.R-e8? The only thing black can do is 94... B-b8. Followed by 95. K-a6. The only move for black is to move the pinned Bishop. Am I missing something? Is moving a piece pinned against the King legal?
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  Breunor: Dorsnikov,

In your line after Ka6 it is a draw by stalemate - black has no legal move. You cannot move the pinned bishop.

Jan-31-19  Diana Fernanda: Bello friends cgames Solution problem Is rook a7 folowing td7 winning bishop or mate.
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