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Paul Morphy vs NN
"The Big Easy" (game of the day Jul-12-2012)
New Orleans (1858), New Orleans, LA USA, Mar-24
Italian Game: Two Knights Defense. Perreux Variation (C55)  ·  1-0



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Jul-12-12  ZeejDonnelly: <Wasn't this the game of the day within the last ten days? Morphy-vs-Deja Vu?>

Yes, I seem to remember an incredibly similar game with a very similar pun. The Battle of New Orleans, perhaps?

Jul-12-12  kevin86: Morphy sac to open king's position...Morphy chases king...Morphy captures king...nuf said.
Jul-12-12  Chessmensch: Re repeat of the game: I didn't go back to check (I have them archived), but I clearly remember the kibitzing chain prior to today.
Jul-12-12  ZeejDonnelly: I rarely kibitz regarding actual moves/play, since I am a low-rated, amateur blitz player. BUT I would appreciate it if <Chessgames> offered more GOTDs that illustrate strategical/tactical themes that are OBVIOUS yet difficult for low-rated (1400) amateurs to see. I find that my greatest challenges are not whether I can SEE a combination, but rather that I can see whether a combination is possible.

I understand that this is an incredibly difficult task for the talented people at If anything, this problem (with a sham queen sacrifice in the middle of the week rather than on a Monday) demonstrates how incredibly informative and instructive this website is. I am truly overjoyed to have discovered it.

I also have access to a wonderful university library which has a good amount of chess books. I'm sure that those individuals who do not/cannot afford such access would also appreciate this.

Thanks very much to the knowledgeable kibitzers!

Oct-13-13  kjr63: 10.Nc3. Morphy sacrifices Knight to get Ra1 out quickly?
Jul-27-14  TPFIN: It is over faster if 19. Dc4 ...
Oct-19-14  Ke2: Nc3 is great! It even takes a while for the comp to recognize as best.
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  steinitzfan: I think 18b4 is a wonderful move. If black takes the pawn -- as he did -- white's rook becomes a powerhouse on the queenside. If he retreats behind the bishop, the pawn holds the vital c5 square and enables Bf3#. If black retreats to the queenside, the pawn provides support for a quick mate.
May-17-16  RookFile: It's possible that a computer could play 6....Nxd5 and hold the position. It's not as simple as one might think. I'm sure of one thing - I wouldn't try it.
Jan-22-22  paulmorphy1969: Member MountainMatt wright : Almost as if Morphy went for the most humiliating winning line possible against NN, aka Rodney Dangerfield Serius Rodney Dangerfield are opponent of Morphy in this game? I dont discovery eny info on this player .Please if you have other info please informe me.Thanks
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Paul 1969,

Rodney Dangerfield was a comedian whose catch phrase was 'I get no respect.' (most N.N's get no respite or respect.)

Rodney Dangerfield and a very loose connection to chess is here:

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  MissScarlett: Does anyone know a source for this game? The date, March 24th 1858, coincides with a 6-board blindfold display given by Morphy in New Orleans, from which two games are known, as published by the <Sunday Delta> (Game Collection: Blindfold Morphy). But is the date here correct?
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  jnpope: The earliest I have is <Paul Morphy>, Maroczy, 1909, pp113-114, ends at 19.Qd4+ (# in 4).
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  jnpope: Maroczy gives:
New Orleans, 1858
Aus sechs gleichzeitigen Blindlingsspielen
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  MissScarlett: It's kind of strange that Maurian in the <Sunday Delta> published two games each from Morphy's blindfold simuls of the 10th, 17th and 24th of March (4,5 and 6 boards, respectively) but then none from his 7 and 8 board simuls of April 7th and May 5th (?). He doesn't even report the outcome of the last display, having trailed it the previous week. And if it didn't go ahead, why not report that?
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  MissScarlett: I'm hanging a <?> over this game, and challenging the chess world to find a 19th century source. You have 72 hours....the clock is ticking!
Jan-24-22  Chessist: Max Lange: Paul Morphy. Sein Leben und Schaffen. 3rd Edition, Leipzig 1894, p 111/112.

New Orleans 1858.
"Aus sechs gleichz. Blindlingsspielen"
19.Qd4 "nebst Mat in spätestens vier Zügen."

Jan-25-22  Z truth 000000001: Should <Missy> issue a formal retraction ? on the ?.

How could the <Miss> miss a game from one of the canonical Morphy sources?

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  MissScarlett: No, I’m still alleging this game is fake.
Jan-25-22  Z truth 000000001: I guess <Lange>'s 1894 work isn't <a 19th century source> then.
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  MissScarlett: Belated congratulations on the 19th century source, but the <?> remains.

See Game Collection: Not Really Morphy.

Also T Barnes vs Morphy, 1858

What's the worst that can happen? I'll be proven wrong and a copper-bottomed, contemporaneous source will have been identified.

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  jnpope: I don't believe this is a Morphy game either:

Morphy vs J McConnell, 1849

My reasons are in that thread. Far too many facts about this game would need to be wrong for this game to be actually played by Morphy. Someone needs to explaining why the player's initials are wrong, why the date is wrong, why Morphy's uncle would "introduce" his nephew 14 months later, etc.

I'm not sure where Lawson found this game... Dufresne's <Schachfreund> which also gave us other bogus Morphy games? Or perhaps someone sent it to Lawson just to "punk" him?

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  MissScarlett: < Max Lange: Paul Morphy. Sein Leben und Schaffen. 3rd Edition, Leipzig 1894, p 111/112.>

One can assume then that it doesn't appear in <<Paul Morphy. Skizze aus der Schachwelt>, Lange, 2nd ed., 1881, pp73-74>.

Jan-26-22  Chessist: That's the way it is.
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  fredthebear: Do we know the truth?

<Z truth 000000001: I guess <Lange>'s 1894 work isn't <a 19th century source> then.>

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