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Serafino Dubois vs Wilhelm Steinitz
"Dubious Dubois" (game of the day Mar-18-2017)
B.C.A. Grand Tourney (1862), London ENG, Jul-??
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Normal (C50)  ·  0-1



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  Honza Cervenka: Serafino Dubois
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  Sneaky: Also see Helin Tapio vs Kiltti Jyrki, 1996 -- Tapio thought he found an improvement with 13.h3, but it led to disaster after ...♘e2+ 14. ♔h1 ♖xh3+ 15. gxh3 ♗f3#
Oct-21-03  drukenknight: Hmmm I'm thinking 12 Nc6 might be better. on move 13 maybe Qg5?
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  Eggman: 13.Qg5 Ne2+ 14.Kh1 Rxh2mate!
Oct-21-03  drukenknight: well I guess that wont work. where did white go wrong?
Oct-22-03  Cyphelium: 7.Bh4 looks like an error to me. 7. Be3 is better.
Dec-07-03  Sarimanok: Why not 9)Nxg5?
Dec-07-03  Shadout Mapes: 9.Nxg5 h4
Dec-07-03  Sarimanok: How about 9.Nxg5 h4 10. Nf7?
Dec-07-03  Shadout Mapes: Dubois had already tried that against Steinitz and wasn't happy with the result: Dubois vs Steinitz, 1862
Dec-07-03  Shadout Mapes: I've been looking over this variation, how about 13.h3? 13.h3 Ne2+ 14.Qxe2 Bxe2 15.Ne6 Bb6 16.Nc3 Bxf1 17.Kxf1 gxf2 and the position looks equal. Still rather unclear though, any thoughts on this?
Dec-08-03  Sarimanok: <Shadout Mapes> Thanks for the interesting point.
Dec-08-03  Cyphelium: <Shadout Mapes> I think the final position of your variation looks slightly favourable for black. After all, he is an exchange up.Still, white has two pawns for the exchange and it does looks much better than what happened in the game. So I've tried another way.

After 13. h3 Ne2+ 14. Qxe2 Bxe2 15. Ne6, I suggest 15.- Bxf1!?.

A/ 16. Nxc7+ Kd8 17. Nxa8 does not seem to be good in view of 17.- Be2 when white is in great trouble; for example 18. Nc3 Bxf2+ 19. Kh1 Bf3! (threat Rxh3 mate) 20. gxf3 Rxh3+ 21. Kg2 Rh2+ 22. Kf1 Rh1+ 23. Ke2/g2 Rxa1 and the g-pawn will queen or cause further material losses. Instead 18. Nd2 covers f3, but 18.- Bxf2+ 19. Kh1 Ng4 looks very tricky. The threat is simply 20.- Bf2 movessomewhere followed by 21.- Nf2+. 20. Nf1 fails to 20.- Rxh3+ 21. gxh3 Bf3 mate. 20. Rf1 Be3! is not very nice either.

B/ Better is 16. Nxc5 dxc5 17. Kxf1 Rf8 when white still has those two pawns for the exchange, though it looks easier for black to convert this to a win than in your variation. (No annoying knight on e6).

May-17-04  bumpmobile: I think it was brilliant how Steinitz simplified into an easily won endgame with his last six moves. A good lesson for beginners.
Jun-26-04  sneaky pete: This is not a game, but a variation given in notes to the only game in which Dubois made the mistake 7.Bh4? He actually played 9.h4 and lost in 37 (or 39) moves - game is duplicated in database, once with wrong initials.
Sep-17-04  fred lennox: One of Steinitz's most analyzed game. Instead of 21...Qe8, 21...Ne5! 22.Bxe5...Rh1+ 23.Kf2...Qxe5 24.Qe2...Qf5+ 25.Qf3...Rxf1+ 26.Kxf1...Rh1+ 27.Kf2...d3 and black's passed pawn is very powerful.
Jan-18-05  ksadler: A very nice finish by Steinitz. I enjoyed this game, whether it is authentic, or just a potential sideline, it is impressive.
Mar-24-05  Whitehat1963: Some great jaw-dropping moves in this one. Very entertaining.
May-11-05  ArturoRivera: They are four gaqmes with the variation Nxd8, all lost by white, Bh4 is definitely a mistake, a complete mistake once white castled.
May-12-05  Boomie: Shadout Mapes 13.h3 looks good for white. Generally a rook is worth a piece and two pawns, but not when the pawns are outside, connected, and passed. Here are some lines I've looked at with the help of my Uncle Fritz.

13. h3 Ne2+ 14. Qxe2 Bxe2 15. Ne6 Bxf1

(15... Bb6 16. Nc3 Bxf1 17. Kxf1 gxf2 18. Na4 Ke7 19. Nxb6 axb6 20. Kxf2 c6 21. Ng7 d5 22. Nf5+ Kd7 23. exd5 cxd5 24. Bb3 Ke6

(24...Rh5 25. Ne3 d4 26. Nd5 Rf8 27. Kg1 Nxd5 28. Bxd5 Rc8 29. Bf3 Rg5 30. Rc1 Rh8 31. Kh2 (1.34))

25. Ne3 (0.82))

16. Kxf1

(16. Nxc5 dxc5 17. Kxf1 Rf8 18. Nd2 Ng4 19. Nf3 Nxf2 20. Ke2 O-O-O 21. Nxe5 Rf6 22. Re1 (1.04))

16... Bb6

(16... gxf2 17. Nxc5 dxc5 18. Nd2 Ke7 19. Nf3 (1.34))

17. fxg3 Kd7 18. a4 c6 19. Nc3 Ba5 20. Ng5 Raf8 (0.65))

Oct-13-05  omenamato: After 15...Bb6 16 Nc3 Bxf1 17 Kxf1 gxf2 18 Na4 black plays Kd7 and after 19 Nxb6 axb6 20 Kxf2 and now b5.21 Bb3
(not Bxb5+)c5! 22. Ng5(Ng7? 22...c4! 23 dxc4 Rg8 24 Nf5 Nxe4 25 Ke3 Nc5 26 Kf2 Nxb3 27 cxb2 bxc4 28 bxc4 Rg5 29 Re3 Rf8+ 30 Ke2 Tg3 blocking g-pawn)22...c4 23 dxc4 Rg8 24 Nf3 Nxe4 25 Kf1 b4 And black have good game
Dec-01-05  supermanprime: games like this are why i like going through the
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: 7.Bh4 is bad, but 6.Bg5 and 5.0-0 are also errors--they both give Black easy targets. 5.c3 and 5.Nc3 are better.
Dec-11-05  raydot: Pete Tamburro's "Learn Chess from the Greats," p. 8:

"Don't pin the king knight if your opponent hasn't castled. h6 and g5 are two reasons why."

Dec-11-05  raydot: What I don't get is why Dubois fell for this twice.
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