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Alfons Lasker vs Edward Lasker
"Baked A Lasker" (game of the day Jun-19-2017)
Simul, 30b (1909) (exhibition), Breslau (Wroclaw) GER, Oct-07
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Normal (C50)  ·  0-1



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  alexmagnus: Well, to me as someone whose great-great-grandmother died just two years before his brother was born, that's not too far :D. I know some of my third cousins (no one of the fourth though).
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  andrewjsacks: Good pun. Well done.
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  offramp: Did Alfons have to pay to take part in the Simul? That would be harsh!
Jun-19-17  AlicesKnight: The 'Pianissimo' variation produces another example of it being mis-named.
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  FSR: This is essentially the same pun (of mine) that was used for Alekhine vs Lasker, 1934. The only difference is that in the present game the "a" was capitalized - appropriately, since the loser here was "A. Lasker." The game with my pun was GOTD on June 15, 2012. The present game was GOTD almost exactly five years later - but it appears, based on <Phony Benoni>'s comment, that he nominated it <before> my pun was used - on May 20, 2011. The period of over six years between nomination of a pun and use of it for GOTD might be a record.
Jun-19-17  Moszkowski012273: 10...Bc4 is a cute little trick.
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  thegoodanarchist: < FSR: ... The period of over six years between nomination of a pun and use of it for GOTD might be a record.>

Yes, I was thinking the same thing.

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  thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Did Alfons have to pay to take part in the Simul? That would be harsh!>

I had to pay to take part in a simul with GM Edmar Mednis way back when.

And he didn't show any appreciation at all for my generosity, delivering a miniature which culminated in a classical smothered mate: his knight on h6, his queen going to g8 to deliver check, and my rook recapturing on g8, allowing Nf7#

I remember it well.

Jun-19-17  mrknightly: Great pun. Pretty sure Breslau was part of Germany in 1909 and remained so until after WWII.
Jun-19-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: My grandmother, who grew up in Breslau, spoke of meeting Lasker as a little girl and even of playing Muehle with him.

But that's a total coincidence, since she met him on vacation. :)

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  offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <offramp: Did Alfons have to pay to take part in the Simul? That would be harsh!> I had to pay to take part in a simul with GM Edmar Mednis way back when.>

That sounds like you got your money's worth! But poor Alfonso, who it seems is from the Italian side of the family, had to pay to see his own brother. He had to pay to ask where the Marvel comics had been hidden.

Jun-19-17  catlover: The background of the players in this game is rather interesting. Emmanuel Lasker's roots were not only Jewish and German, but also Polish.

As for the game itself, it looks like another example of the old "leave your king in the middle while your queen runs around the board scarfing up material" mistake.

Jun-19-17  King Harvest: Hi quality pun! And a nice finish in a beat-down-the-patzer sort of way. the #f5 one of those moves that reminds me I don't see the board like I ought. Although I did just watch a GM hang mate in a blitz game. That was cheering.
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  Phony Benoni: <FSR> I don't keep detailed records, so I'm not sure if I nominated it in 2011 or not. It appeared fairly late on my Pun Submission list, but it's possible I nominated it in 2011, deleted from the list, then nominated it A lot can happen in six years.

But now I've had to consider if the two puns are actually the same or not. Usually I ignore changes in capitalization, but this one so affects the meaning here that I'm listing them separately. Now, which comes first alphabetically?

Jun-19-17  JPi: Alfons les enfants...
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  ChessHigherCat: Yet another one of the 9,000,000 examples of a checkmate that depends on forcing the King to take a knight. There must be some geometrical explanation. There aren't nearly as many mates based on forcing the King to take a bishop. Somebody should make an end game collection based on "make-daddy-eat-the-horse" mates.

<catlover> The borders between Germany and Poland were extremely fluid (not just in the sense that they were drenched in blood), and "Greater Poland" or the "Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth" included a lot of the Baltic nations at various times, so it's one of those areas where people could change nationalities several times in their lives without traveling anywhere.

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  offramp: I've just thought of a much better pun for this game, which annihilates all of the unseemly, tawdry arguments about who was first.

<D'you Know A Lasker.>

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  ChessHigherCat: <offramp> Juno, I think you're right :-)
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  kevin86: Classic 2 rook sac.
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  Stonehenge: Played in a simul on October 7th, according to
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  MissScarlett: That source has the finish as 19...Bf5+ 20.Kd5 Qc5#.
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  Stonehenge: Yes, see A Lasker vs Ed. Lasker, 1909 (kibitz #7).
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  morfishine: I knew Lasker would win this...


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  Stonehenge: I predicted a draw and lost 200 chessbucks :(
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  Domdaniel: 19...f5# is another mate, a move earlier.
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