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| Jun-08-09 | | steve123456: Doesn't 6.Bxb5...Bd7 7.dxc6 win Estrin a knight? |
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| Jul-15-09 | | micahtuhy: After 6. Bxb5 Black is free to play Qxd5 and has a significant advantage. Taking b5 is a common trap that Black is trying to bait. |
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| Jan-14-12 | | Rosbach: In this variation of two knights game could White not be better of playing 6.dxc6 or 6.Nc3?
Think I'll make a collection of White playing and loosing with 6.Bf1...
Naiditsch vs Carlsen, 2006 |
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Jan-27-12
 | | profK: This is a great example, which often happens in correspondence chess, where analysis goes deeper than what has been around. in books, or current accepted practice. This is such a gem !!! |
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Jan-27-12
 | | Penguincw: 5...b5 and things are already looking interesting. |
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| Feb-05-12 | | erniecohen: I don't understand why Estrin cannot draw the Rook ending. For example, 34. ♔g3 ♔d4 35. ♖f3 ♖c2 36. ♖f7 a5 37. ♖d7+ ♔e3 38. b3 ♖xa2 39. ♖b7 ♖d2 40. ♖xb6 ♖xd3 is a draw. I think he just misplayed it. So, anyone want to bet that they can win with Berliner's position starting with move 34? I'm willing to take the White side of a postal. |
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| Jul-31-12 | | Llawdogg: Wow! Great analysis by RV and others here. Really helped to understand the complexity of this game. |
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Nov-18-12
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here :
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=... |
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| Feb-28-13 | | SirChrislov: Tim Harding analyzes this game in great detail in <64 Great Chess Games: Instructive Classics from the World of Correspondence Chess> It is a masterpiece in terms of precision, Makes the immortal game look like child's play. But to understand it fully you must go through all the variations, with a smaller analysis set (it helps.) If you're a postal-game nut, I recommend T. Harding's follow-up: <50 Golden Chess Games: More Masterpieces of Correspondence Chess> |
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| Mar-03-13 | | RandomVisitor: <erniecohen>After 33...Ke5
click for larger viewBlack has a better king position and can threaten to move kingside to support the passed pawn or queenside to eat white pawns. 34.Kg3 Kd4 35.Rf3 Rc5 might be best play. |
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| Aug-22-15 | | tdh1967: I would like to take the offer erniecohen made to play a postal game from move #34 of Estrin_Berliner correspondence game. I believe Estrin had the game won until 15. Be2? from using the computer to arrive at this. After this move, it was a black win as long as no blunders were made for black. Again, using the computer to arrive at this. My programs can win for black easily after 34. Ke3 but in three years since this post was made, I'm sure this is common knowledge now with the new programs so much better than even in 2012. I'd like to play the game for fun if you would like. |
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| Apr-21-16 | | erniecohen: <tdh1967> Hi! Sorry for the long delay in answering, I just now saw your post. Email me at ernie.cohen@acm.org and we can arrange something. |
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| Jan-17-17 | | cro777: The game is annotated by IM Sagar Shah who, as a young lad, read Hans Berliner's book "The System: A World Champion's Approach to Chess" which lays out a set of principles that Berliner used to guide him to the right moves: https://en.chessbase.com/post/hans-... Hans Berliner died on last Friday (13 January, 2017) in Riviera Beach, Florida at 87. |
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| Aug-28-17 | | borabc: 6.Bf1 is Main Line and Best Move.
If I don't remember wrong, another Estrin-Berliner Game also used this exact pun.
I also couldn't find where did white go wrong. |
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Aug-28-17
 | | offramp: This has been GoTD a few times with the same title. I think it should have a title along the lines of Anderssen's Immortal. How about <The World's Only Well-Known Correspondence Game> ? |
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| Aug-28-17 | | rea: "I am a jelly doughnut" |
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| Aug-28-17 | | dumbgai: <offramp> It's certainly one of only a few correspondence games that I would recognize. |
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Aug-28-17
 | | Domdaniel: One of the greatest chess games - corr, OTB, whatever - ever played. Phenomenal analytic depth on both sides, with a wildly unbalanced middlegame resolving to a narrowly won ending. Both Estrin and Berliner were correspondence champions, and each wrote a memorable book - Berliner on his system and Estrin on the Two Knights' Defence, which Berliner here uses to beat him. |
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Aug-28-17
 | | keypusher: These ought to be famous:
Game Collection: 1824 Edinburgh Chess Club vs London Chess Club Estrin vs V Palciauskas, 1978 |
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| Aug-28-17 | | The Kings Domain: Fine game. |
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Aug-29-17
| | keypusher: There's one I vaguely remember from a Chernev book where the winner got to mail a mate-in-ten to his opponent. Anyone know what game I mean? I realize I'm not giving you much to go on... |
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Aug-30-17
 | | kevin86: The extra pawn wins it for black. |
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| Nov-08-17 | | JoseCapablanca: Thanks User: Poisonpawns for posting the correspondence game dealing with 12.Qe2; engines find interesting but often flawed ways to continue in many of these 4.Ng5 variations. |
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| Nov-20-21 | | tbontb: In a complex opening and middlegame, Berliner's 10....e4 was the novelty and Estrin's 15.Be2 a clear error which allowed Black to gradually take over. The position finally resolved into an advantageous R ending for Black, handled expertly by both players until 34.a4 then 38.a6 (better 38.Rf5 with seemingly only a slight edge for Black) allowed Berliner to force the win (38....Rc6 looks simplest). |
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Apr-04-23
| | DaltriDiluvi: The position after <18...Rb6> deserves a diagram:
click for larger viewThe white queenside makes me think of the title of Leonard Cohen's novel "Beautiful Losers". |
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