| Jul-11-04 | | Helloween: 15...Bxd5 wins according to the game score. I checked the notation and found 7.Ke2? to be incorrect. The move actually played in the game was 7.0-0. |
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| Aug-27-04 | | Marvol: Shouldn't Chessgames take it out of the Opening Explorer then?
How can we let them know? |
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| Sep-29-04 | | Jesuitic Calvinist: Gray plays Black in this, his only game on the database (as does Grey in his only game). White plays Black in all his games on the database, while Black plays White in all of his. All of which goes to show that in this world there is not black and white, but just shades of grey (which tend strongly towrds black). You could call it Charcoal Manicheanism. |
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Sep-29-04
 | | tpstar: <Jesuitic Calvinist> I know you're gonna dig this = White |
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| Sep-30-04 | | Jesuitic Calvinist: Thanks, TP. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | ongyj: If 10...Nf6 any idea(s) how White should continue? |
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| Aug-20-05 | | percyblakeney: After 10. ... Nf6 the position after 11. e5 looks pleasant for white, for example 11. ... Ne4 12. Qc2 Nc5 13. Bg5 Qf8. |
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| Sep-18-05 | | ongyj: In that case, would anyone care to suggest further improvements for White? I'm considering 11or12.e5 And I wish to receive your comments and/or criticisms thanks. |
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| May-24-06 | | Knight13: Did Black had a choice? Castling Queen side seemed like a pretty bad idea to me. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | cyslim007: 15. ...Bxd5 does not win since after 16. exd5, both queen and knight are attacked. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | kapustka: Knight13 i agree. The king is so exposed to open b and c ranks. In fact the most protected black king position may be just in the center. Fantastic game. White seems to be happy to sacrifice his pawns. In black position i would look hard for some way to exchange material that could slow down attack. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | D4n: I'm a fan of the Evan'g Gambit. Its a strong opening. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | kevin86: How devil-may-care was Gray? He played the Compromised Defense against Steinitz. That is like playing with matches in a dynamite factory-certainly to earn the Nobel Prize for idiocy! (or a Darwin Award-for helping to thin the herd) lol |
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Oct-23-07
 | | playground player: For a guy who supposedly didn't like the Evans Gambit, and considered it unsound, Steinitz did all right with it here. OTB, I almost never get a chance to play the Evans Gambit. I don't find many Black players who even want to go into the Giuoco Piano. Wonder why that is. When I was learning chess, the Italian Game was very popular. Then again, so were hula hoops. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | pawnofdoom: The Evan's gambit is a scary opening. I play into those lines in the Guicco Piano (which I play myself, but I prefer the quieter lines) with 1. e4 e5 2. ♘f3 ♘c6 3. ♗c4 ♗c5. Just to avoid complications, I play a slightly worse for black but easier to play defense, with 4. b4 ♗xb4 5. c3 ♗e7!?. It's part of opening theory, and not as good as playing Ba4 as it's more passive, but I get good results with it just because I'm a pawn up. I just have to play safe moves for the rest of the game, and then win in the endgame. White's attack is a lot weaken and black usually doesn't die in the opening like he did here. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | Nasruddin Hodja: <playground player>: in his youthful days, up until the late 1870's, Steinitz was a Romantic player who relished playing the Evans and who was nicknamed "The Austrian Morphy". It was only when he suffered a concussion after being thrown out of a window by Blackburne in the late 1870's (he didn't; just kidding) that he became obsessed with defensive, positional chess and became convinced that the Evans must be unsound. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | RookFile: He proved it by losing all those Evans Gambit games as black and getting slapped around by Anderssen, Chigorin and Gunsberg, usually with his queen immobilized on some ridiculous square like a8 or b8, while his king was getting checkmated on the kingside. |
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| Feb-14-09 | | WhiteRook48: Steinitz got obsessed with defensive?? He should have played agressively |
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| Aug-02-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Steinitz vs R Gray, 1872.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF STEINITZ.
Your score: 26 (par = 26)
LTJ |
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| Jan-21-21 | | Goldrider: The only move played by Steinitz in this miniature which Stockfish feels is inaccurate is 12. ♗c5!?. Stockfish feels this is weaker than 12. ♖ae1 ; after 12. ♗c5!? ♕d7! 13. ♖ad1 ♘ge7 the game is unclear. All of the other moves by Steinitz are well played; while Black was not a pushover, Robert Gray did have better defenses. To answer an earlier commenter, 10. ... ♘f6 is better than the f6 played; here white can continue 11. ♗a3 d6 12. e5 ♘e4 13. ♕b2 or with 12. ♖fe1 which Stockfish prefers. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 15.Rxb7