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Tibor Fogarasi vs Dennis Breder
KB Czech Open (2000), Pardubice CZE, rd 4, Jul-24
Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Classical Variation (B63)  ·  0-1

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Nov-22-05  Eric Xanthus: <patzer2> I think for your first puzzle 45.Rb8 Qxb8 46.Qxf6+ Kxh7 47.Qxf7+ Kh8 48.Qh5+ and the rook falls. The second seemed simpler to me: 46.Qf8+ Kxh7 47.Qxf7+ Kh8/6 48.Rh4+ and the queen will have to fall.

What is my prize? :)

Nov-22-05  sanferrera: thanks, patzer2. Your little new problems were amussing to solve.
Nov-22-05
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  patzer2: <SamuyelS><EricXanthus> Thanks for the expanded solutions to the problems I provided above. The first problem illustrates the power of the pin and the Skewer with 45. Rb8! used as a deflection to set up a winning double attack. The second problem uses a simple pin and deflection tactic to win the Queen after 46. Qf8+ Kxh7 47. Qxf7+ Kh6 48. Rh4+ . <sanferrera> Glad you enjoyed them. I thought they were instructive examples of what to avoid (as Black) in today's problem.
Nov-22-05  Guest1825: Got this. But if I were White, I'd have resigned following 48.Rb8+ There is the ever-so-small-as-to-be-non-existent possibility of48...Kg7?? or 48...Qg8?? Keeps the fighting spirit to the end. Of course, had I played this game, I would not have played as White, I'd have played Black, naturally!
Nov-22-05  YouRang: I got it. For a minute, I was looking for mating maneuvers, but when I noticed the potential for a discovered attack on the queen, 44. Ra1+ sprang into view.
Nov-22-05  TopaLove: First, I think it would have been interesting starting before 43 ... ♖d1+

I started looking for a mate too. I tried first ♕a5+ and ♕g1. After, when I analized ♖a1+ I realized the queen was in prize.

My rating is around 1700 in 5 minute games and around 1800+ in longer games. It took me 3 minutes to solve the puzzle.

Nov-22-05
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  pittpanther: This was an interesting puzzle. I figured it out in about 15 seconds. My rating is USCF 2220.
Nov-22-05  Halldor: Got this instantly because I began to look for the most forced moves.
Nov-22-05  noendgame: I too am in the group who looked for a mate and missed the obvious (in retrospect) queen sac. For the record, I am an unrated player, but my Chessgames name should give you an idea of my skill level (is there something below "patzer"?). Even so, I usually get Monday and Tuesday puzzles, sometimes Wednesday, rarely anything much later in the week (I did get a Saturday puzzle recently). I think the idea of correlating puzzle difficulty with skill level sounds like fun. A few kibitzers may fudge a little, but most people are honest most of the time.
Nov-22-05  euripides: < noendgame: my Chessgames name should give you an idea of my skill level > obviously one of these whizzkid Internet grandmasters.
Nov-22-05
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  kevin86: I was looking for a mate,but discovered that after the rook sac at a1-that Bxb2+ would expose the white queen.After simplification,black is up queen for rook and white is doomed.
Nov-22-05
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  patzer2: White's losing move in this game was 19. Na4? I'm sure Black quickly jumped on the winning move to trap this wayward Knight.


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[19...? Black to move and win]

Instead, White should have played 19. Ne2 = with even chances.

Nov-22-05  noendgame: <euripides: obviously one of these whizzkid Internet grandmasters.> Nope. I'm just a chess dilettante who does not compete but enjoys Chessgames.com immensely when I have a few spare minutes.
Nov-22-05
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  patzer2: One could argue that today's puzzle solution combination actually started (or at least was set up) with the preparatory move 42...Qb6!!

After 42...Qb6!! 43. Rxb4 Rd1+ Black's winning combination is obviously well on its way.

Nov-22-05  ChessGeezer: I'm new to chess. My USCF rating is about 1050. I solved this one quickly, but only because I noticed the potential of the discovered attack on the white Q. I usually get Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday puzzles. I sometimes get a Thursday puzzle, and rarely solve a Friday puzzle. I can solve puzzles that use tactics with which I am familiar, but get lost in the subtleties of the more complex puzzles.
Nov-22-05  aw1988: <chessgames> My solution is Ra1+ Kxa1 Qa5+ Ra4 Qe1 and mate; does this work?
Nov-22-05  aw1988: Oops.
Nov-22-05  esticles: Interesting that a lot of people missed winning the queen because they looked for mate. I, on the other hand, missed winning the queen because I underreached--thinking that the tactic was a way for black to hold on to the material without allowing mate/perpetual etc. I suppose this problem exposed a hidden deficiency in my manliness
Nov-22-05  headmutant7: I am an infrequent kibitzer though I try to check this site every day. I haven't played a rated game of chess in 36 years but when I "retired" at age 18 I had a 1953 rating by the USCF. I still love the game because luck is never a factor. Chess remains the truest test of a gamer's prowess. <patzer2> I thoroughly enjoy your posts because they are always rational and logical with informative explainations for both high and low rated players. Keep it up. BTW, I still figure out most of the answers though some of the weekend ones are very tough and my old brain loses focus on occasion.
Nov-22-05  apoorv: i was looking for a checkmate, so completely missed the free queen (although i did look at Ra1+ and Bxb2+) 5 minutes wasted
Nov-22-05
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  patzer2: <headmutant7> Thanks for the encouragement. It's good to know stronger players like yourself find the posts informative.
Nov-22-05
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  Richard Taylor: This is great example of defence and then, finally, counter attack - White gees up a piece in attempting to wipe Black out - and comes close -Black defends excellently by starting an counterattack against the W king (and brings his pieces back to cover key squares -its hard to see how this game may have gone had White tried other moves- finally White (posibly tired) falls for a basic tactic.

I saw it very easily - but it's early in the week.

Nov-22-05
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  Richard Taylor: <ChessGeezer: I'm new to chess. My USCF rating is about 1050. I solved this one quickly, but only because I noticed the potential of the discovered attack on the white Q. I usually get Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday puzzles. I sometimes get a Thursday puzzle, and rarely solve a Friday puzzle. I can solve puzzles that use tactics with which I am familiar, but get lost in the subtleties of the more complex puzzles.> Join the club!! You are doing well to get to Thursday.
Nov-22-05  TTLump: <patzer2> 19 ... Qa5
Nov-22-05
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  patzer2: <TTLump> Correct! 19...Qa5! traps the Knight and wins a piece after White's mistake 19. Na4? It was all a matter of technique after this. Instead 19. Ne2= would have kept White in the game.
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