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Paul Morphy vs NN
New Orleans (1855) (unorthodox), New Orleans, LA USA
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Mar-03-04  Whitehat1963: Poor NN! Even a whole rook isn't enough to survive 20 of Morphy's vicious moves!
Nov-19-04  GreatGrecosGhost: After 20. Bxf6 Qxf6 21. Qxf6 the position is unclear. There seem to be chances for both sides, Black has more material, and white has better development. Naturally, I think given the chance Morphy would have ripped him to shreds.

But it must be pointed out that Morphy missed a forced mate. 20. Bh6 sets up 21. Qg3+ and 22. Qg7#. Black can only stop it with 20...Kh8 allowing his rook to join in the defense. Then white will play 21. Qf5, with mate to follow.

Mar-14-05  sergeidave: Morphy was definetively the best! No more comments needed...
Jan-11-06  morpstau: A morphy game with no annotation is a rarity indeed! Black cant survive long and justifiably resigned. 16. e5 !! is the winner and opens a line for the fellow rook to join the fray. Hey wheres whites rook?
Jun-05-06  dakgootje: <But it must be pointed out that Morphy missed a forced mate. (...)> Yes i wondered for like 10 minutes why that didnt work, maybe good puzzle where the players didnt actually see the solution?
Aug-10-06
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  thegoodanarchist: <GreatGrecosGhost & dakgootje>

Sorry, 20.Bh6 is not a forced mate. However, Black must still give up the queen by capturing the light-squared bishop in order to stop mate. 21. Qg3+ is prevented by 20...Qxd3; and if 21. Qg4+ then 21...Qg6

Obviously 20...Qxd3 is met by 21.Qxd3 and White is better.

Aug-11-06  dakgootje: <thegoodanarchist> Your obviously right. Still it seems better then the game continuation. As that one ends up ♔♕♗♙♙♙♙ vs ♔♖♖♘♙♙♙♙♙♙ and after 20. Bh6 Qxd3 21. Qxd3 Kh8 22. Bxf8 Rxf8 23. Qa3 R... 24. Qa5 and its ♔♕♙♙♙♙ vs ♔♖♙♙♙♙♙♙.
Sep-28-06  thatsmate: This game is identical to the one that is listed as happening 2 years earlier... seems to be a mistake in the database.

Morphy vs NN, 1855

Jan-01-09  WhiteRook48: "Where's white's rook?" Morphy gave the first one as odds, then sacrificed the other for a bishop.
Jan-01-09  WhiteRook48: I know. I noticed also. Maybe NN agreed with Morphy to lose another game with rook odds in the same fashion? Exactly? but I don't see why NN would throw away another game like that.
Jan-02-09  WhiteRook48: you either give me your queen, Morphy says, or-
NN: "I'll take the other choice!"
Morphy: "OR get checkmated."
Feb-26-09  WhiteRook48: I hope he never Morphed into NN
Feb-28-09  WhiteRook48: was the 0-0 move an error?
Feb-28-09  WhiteRook48: notice this game http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... which indicates Morphy knew this line throughout. :D
Feb-28-09  WhiteRook48: never mind, that link isn't there anymore
Mar-02-09  WhiteRook48: Notice this: Morphy vs NN, 1857 which indicates Morphy knew this line back and front.
Mar-04-09  kayakerg: Does anyone play the Evans anymore?
Mar-04-09  kackhander: i do! so does short, but he outranks me by about a thousand points.
Mar-04-09  WhiteRook48: I never play the Evans Gambit. I did in a game when I was giving odds to somebody and lost. Lesson: Don't give odds and play the Evans Gambit unless you are some champion. :D
Nov-18-09  Aas: <thegoodanarchist: <GreatGrecosGhost & dakgootje> Sorry, 20.Bh6 is not a forced mate. However, Black must still give up the queen by capturing the light-squared bishop in order to stop mate. 21. Qg3+ is prevented by 20...Qxd3; and if 21. Qg4+ then 21...Qg6

Obviously 20...Qxd3 is met by 21.Qxd3 and White is better.>

Actually 20 Bh6 is a forced mate. After 20... Qxd3 21 Qxd3 Black must play 21... Kh8 to avoid the Qg3+ Qg7# mate. But white can then play 22. Qf5 after 22... (any move) 23. Qxf6 mate will follow at g7

Nov-22-14  princecharming: Actually 20.Bh6 isn't a forced mate.
20.Bh6 Kh8 21.Qf5 Qxd3 22.Qxd3 Rg1 23.Qf5 Rg6 and Black is better off than if White had played 20.Bxf6.
Nov-22-14  princecharming: 22.Qxd3 Rg8*
Dec-26-16
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  Big Pawn: It appears that White has no more than a draw in the final position. After 20. Qxf6 21. Qxf6 Nc6 it seems like a perpetual might be White's best choice.
Dec-26-16  ChessHigherCat: <Big Pawn: It appears that White has no more than a draw in the final position. After 20. Qxf6 21. Qxf6 Nc6 it seems like a perpetual might be White's best choice.>

How does black defend against 22. Qf5 in your line?

Dec-26-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Big Pawn: <ChessHigherCat>, I think he can just move his rook over and all is well. 22...Rfd8. If the game goes on, black is better, so white should take a perpetual.
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