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Paul Morphy vs NN
New York (1857) (unorthodox)
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Jun-22-04  jesterco12: would 7...dxe6 8. Qxd8 Bb4+ been better? It would have regained the Queen and NN would have been up a piece.
Jun-22-04  HailM0rphy: Hmm I think maybe when playing amateurs, Morphy knew about the NN 2 step thinking process..I kill this..whoops queens gone - differnt idea. It'd be hard to belive he didn't see that..but would he really take that risk of gettin beat by NN?
Oct-30-05  CowardlyKnight: Don't think Morphy really thought much during this games... Besides I don't think he was all that squeamish about losing this casual odds games.
Oct-30-05  aw1988: The rules to playing NN:

1) NN will snatch as much material as you give it.

2) NN will hang on to as much material as it can manage.

3) NN does not develop any pieces.

4) NN disregards mate.

Pair this against Morphy who is the exact opposite, and we have many classy examples...

Apr-13-06  MorphyMatt: 18. ♖b5+! cxb5 (18... ♔a6 19. ♖a5+ ♔b6 20. ♗e3+ c5 21. ♕xc5#) 19. ♕xb5+ ♔c7 20. ♕c5+ ♔b8 21. ♕d6#
Apr-13-06  MorphyMatt: btw 7... ♔xe6?? black really is an NN here. Correct is 7... dxe6! 8. ♕xd8 ♗b4+ with a fairly simply win.
Apr-13-06  Saruman: <MM> 18.-cxb5 19.Be3+ Ka5(19.-Kc6 20.cxb5#) 20.Qxb5#.
Apr-13-06  TurtleKaze: Where are the games where the NN beats an overly cocky GM? If I've learned anything from chess, it's to never underestimate your opponent.
Apr-13-06  SBC: <TurtleKaze>

For some games where NN beats the Named opponent, see the "notable games" section on NN

Jul-05-06  Fast Gun: Morphy could never get away with this sort of chess today, he would have a hard time beating strong club players giving knight odds and as for computers, well he would have suffered an awful lot of losses: I have played a number of these games into Fritz, it simply tears Morphy to pieces and refutes the all the unsound sacrifices. I believe that Morphy's problem was that there were not enough strong players around to test him, he was way ahead of the other players at this time. It would be interesting to conjecture just how Morphy would fair today against so many other strong grandmasters that there are now, as well as the new generation of super computers such as Deep Blue, Hydra, Deep Junior, Shredder or Fritz with their ability to calcuate millions of positions in seconds, does anyone out there really believe that Morphy could thrash these computers and today's masters as easily as he did back in the 1850's?
Jul-05-06  RookFile: Yeah yeah, more nonsense. The other day this guy cizio said a 2100 could beat Morphy, citing the game Bird vs. Morphy, saying 6. Nxe5 wins. First game we look at in this line, a 2420 FIDE guy gleefully takes Morphy's position, and wins in 16 moves.
Jul-05-06  veigaman: a genious is a genious no matter the time!. It would have been interisting to see playing morphy in the knock out fide system!.
Oct-14-07  battleaxe: Morphy was the Mozart of chess, and computer chess is like computer music, unnatural.
May-09-08  cn1ght: Well, of course morphy would lose to today's computers. TODAY'S grandmasters lose to computers, and everything known is based on what morphy knew and then there has been more built upon that information!
Jan-19-09  WhiteRook48: Morphy might not have lost to computers! He had great center control!! We might just need to focus on this game though.
Mar-28-09  WhiteRook48: 7...dxe6 is definitely better
Apr-12-10  Antiochus: following: 19Rb5check Ka6 19Ra6check kb6
20Be3check c5 21Qc5mate.
Dec-07-14  Ke2: I suppose this game ended in announced mate in 4 from Rb5+.
Dec-05-20  paulmorphy1969: at 17 move in the book of Sergent white annunce mate in four move in the book of macon Shibut the game finish at move 22 whit checkmate.

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