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Oct-28-13
 | | agb2002: The material is identical.
Pattern recognition finds a mate in three: 23.Nxg6+ hxg6 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6#. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | waustad: I wonderd about Grischuk being on the receiving end of this until I saw that it was a U12 event. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | Once: It is worth playing through the game from the beginning. An instructive use of space and the initiative against a relatively undeveloped opponent. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | morfishine: 23.Nxg6+ hxg6 24.Qh4+ |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Nick46: Success shined on me too, today. One down, six to go. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | torro: chess is so wonderful |
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| Oct-28-13 | | TheaN: Monday 28 October 2013
<23.?>
Whaaaaaaaaaat, CG has run out of heavy piece sacrifices on Monday? This got me stumped for a minute or so because of that exact reason. Just as decisive however, White throws in a knight for mate. <23.Nxg6+ hxg6 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6# 1-0> and Grishuk must have felt stumped on this one. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | zb2cr: Black's King is stalemated. Thus, as has been said often on this site, looking for checks is fruitful: 23.Nxg6+, hxg6; 24. Qh4+, Bh6; 25. Qxh6#. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | PawnSac: < coastalferg: wow, 11.Qe1 sure looks like a great move. is this a standard location for the queen against the pirc?? Ponomariov also seem to have used his pawns way better then his opponent in this game. well i guess he used everything better, lol he won quickly > Yes Qe1 is a standard idea in these openings. Pirc, Modern, and certain lines of the Sicilian all employ this type of maneuver designed to attack black's king side dark squares. The push 10.. e5 was premature, and a wrong turn for black. He should play in a more hyper-modern style and develop the light squared bishop. Also, one of the typical ideas for black in the Pirc, Modern, and Sicilian Dragon is to play Rac8 and target the Nc3 often including ..a6 and ..b5 with counter pressure on the Qside. The desire to open up the long diagonal with exf4 is understandable, but in this situation it just aids white's development. White also normally will play Rad1, and now after the premature e5 it will be with an attack on the backward D pawn, so black's followup with Ne5 trying to correct his pawn defect SEEMS reasonable, except that it yields d5 completely to white. Black had to fight harder for the d5 square.
18.Rf7 is also a lemon, considering that the open light diagonal is vulnerable. More prudent was Kh8, but even at that black already has a very problematic game. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Shamot: seeing that black king has no escape square if checked 23.Nxg6+ makes sense, followed by 23...hxg6 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6#.
looking at the pattern of Monday puzzles, basically there is no "puzzle" on Mondays. Monday is a holiday at Chessgames.com!
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Oct-28-13
 | | kevin86: Mate in three starting with Nxg6+!
Where's our queen sac? |
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| Oct-28-13 | | scormus: <Once: It is worth playing through the game from the beginning.> Dead right. If I'd done that first off I'd have realised much sooner WQ was on e1. I spent ages looking for the solution thinking she was on d1. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | MostlyWatch: <Bartimaeus: ...Wonder how Grischuk got into such a mess so quickly.> He was probably distracted by looking into his lady's eyes. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | bachbeet: A N sac instead of a Q sac. Didn't take long to see this one. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <Bartimaeus: ***
Wonder how Grischuk got into such a mess so quickly.> Note that this was an Under-12 Championship. Grischuk would have been 10 years old when this game was played (or recently turned 11, if the game was played on or after 31 October). |
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| Oct-28-13 | | LoveThatJoker: Man, I strongly dislike GM Ponomariov!
<23. Nxg6+ hxg6 24. Qh4#> LTJ |
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Oct-28-13
 | | Penguincw: I love Monday puzzles. Usually they involve some sacrifice and then mate. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | keypusher: <Penguincw: I love Monday puzzles. Usually they involve some sacrifice and then mate.> OMG spoilers!!! |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Patriot: Very straight-forward.
23.Nxg6+ hxg6 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6# |
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Oct-28-13
 | | kbob: Yes, they were all kids. Aronian won the championship against the likes of Bacrot, Vallejo Pons, Ponomariov, Grishuk. It could be a cross table from a tournament played today. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Balmo: Ok obviously I solved this very easily. But in the immortal words of (I think) Spielmann, "I can see the combinations as clearly as Alekhine, but I cannot get to those positions". (Or words to that effect.) In the spirit of that quote, and given that this is a site for chess learning, could someone tell me is there anything wrong with 7...dxc5? Does White have anything better than to go into an endgame with 8.Be3 Qxd1+ 9.Rxd1 b6 10. e5?
Also, in the main line, is 9...Ng4 playable? It looks like after 10.Nd5 Nf2+ is no good because of 11. Rxf2 and after the queen recaptures, Be3. But can Black throw in 10...e6? After the (presumable) check just moving to h8? I would appreciate any feedback and advice! Thanks in advance. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Patriot: <Balmo> I would be tempted to play 7...dxc5 although it's generally a bad idea since the pawn is not as central, giving it less value. But I'm not sure I understand how there is a better alternative. I don't think black would want to play 6...c5 only to re-capture 7.dxc5 dxc5--it seems like a boring way to play although that could stem from white's decision perhaps going for a draw? I'm not familiar with the Pirc. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Patriot: <Balmo> 9...Ng4 has several interesting tries: 10.Nd4 and 10.Qe1. Your 10.Nd5 trap looks very interesting! Houdini likes 10.Nd5! 10.Qe1 is ok, but 10.Nd4 is terrible due to 10...Bxd4 11.Bxg4 Bxg4 12.Qxg4 Bxc3 etc. The computer also likes 7...Qa5 best. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Kikoman: <Puzzle of the Day> Solution: 23. Nxg6+! hxg6 24. Qh4+ Bh6 25. Qxh6# and that's it! |
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Nov-08-13
 | | perfidious: <LTJ> You'll get over it. Or not. |
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