| Mar-05-03 | | Spitecheck: I like this one, the black king killed by a horse with his own steeds by his side looking elsewhere. Worth a look people. Spitecheck |
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| Mar-05-03 | | ughaibu: I agree, a nice variation on some themes. |
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| Mar-05-03 | | drukenknight: its idiotic. why doesnt blacks Q give check on a5? |
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| Mar-05-03 | | Spitecheck: Nobody's arguing that black's game is perfect here , at which move did you intend Qa5? White played an all round nice game with some flashy fireworks thrown in. |
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| Mar-05-03 | | drukenknight: When, I dunno, at some pt? ;)
it might be interesting to figure out when black had the last clear chance to save the game. |
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| Mar-05-03 | | Spitecheck: Looking at Qa5 towards the end of the game it should basically draw.....either perpetual to black or white gets his perpetual with the checks from the knight and queen. One can surmise than, that either black allowed the beautiful checkmate or he missed it. In a sense I'm glad he allowed/missed it, it was a nice checkmate. Most smothered mates occur differently than does this one. |
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| Mar-05-03 | | drukenknight: yeah its interesting Spite. It reminds me of some of those Greco games we were kibitzing yesterday, have you seen them? |
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| Mar-05-03 | | Spitecheck: LOL no I haven't yet, I noticed somebody had called into question their authenticity however (IE that Greco did not actually have an opponent) indicating perhaps that theres some unbelievable stuff happening in the games. I'll get around to having a look at them when I get back. |
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| Nov-11-05 | | trickyfish75: Black should have played Qa5 on move 19. After the white king is safe from checks black should then move his knight to f6. This way the empty square on c7 will prevent black from being smothered. |
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| Mar-26-09 | | WhiteRook48: after 19...Qa5+ Black should escape |
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| May-10-09 | | Trigonometrist: Smother mate! |
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Jan-28-10
 | | GrahamClayton: <trickyfish75>Black should have played Qa5 on move 19. After the white king is safe from checks black should then move his knight to f6. This way the empty square on c7 will prevent black from being smothered. <trickyfish75>,
19...♕a5+ 20. ♔f1 ♘f6 21.♘d6++ ♔d8 22.♕e8+ ♘e8 23.♘b7+ ♔c7 seems to be OK for Black. |
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| Mar-17-10 | | tommy boy: Unique attack. This pawn on e6 is a little fortress |
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| Oct-24-10 | | sevenseaman: 20. Nd6 double+ sets up the win... 21. Nxe8 leads to 22. Nf7#. |
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| Jun-10-15 | | clement41: nice night attack |
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Sep-03-22
 | | plang: White's attack was speculative and flawed but the ending is pretty. |
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Sep-04-23
 | | Messiah: Did not replay, the pun is too terrible for it. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | Cecco: According to the engine white wins with 18. Qf3 (which makes 18. gxh6 an error), threatening 19. Nxh6 and 20. Qf7+. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | goodevans: <plang: White's attack was speculative and flawed but the ending is pretty.> Agree 100%.
In the face of White's invasion, Black failed several times to find the most resilient response. Most obvious to me was <14...g6> to render the advance g5 harmless rather than <14...h6> trying to prevent it. But if Black had found the right moves then we'd have been robbed of the delightful finish and this game would probably never have seen the light of day. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | sfm: <plang: White's attack was speculative and flawed but the ending is pretty.> Until a position is clear (clearly won or drawn) all plans will be "speculative", coming with pros and cons.
Nothing "flawed" - White is not taking optimistic risks, all moves are sound. The attack is dangerous and turns a peaceful position into a sharp one, where Black is under strong pressure. And goes wrong. The difficulty of the situation is maybe underlined by the engine:
After 12.Nf7 is says
-0.62 (30 ply): 13...Rg8 14.a4
so, a small advantage to Black -
- who DOES actually play 13.-,Rg8 but the engine now re/evalutes, and suggests +0.08 (30 ply): 14.O-O g6 15.a4
But White improves his chances with 14.g4!
and now the engine says:
-1.46 (30 ply): 14...g6 15.O-O
Black goes wrong with 16.-,Nd8? (16.-,Nc4 was ok) A brilliant surprise attack, between two very strong players. |
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Sep-04-23
 | | OhioChessFan: 19...Qa5+ seems obvious. One of those puns that is more clever than good, meant in a good way. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | goodevans: <OhioChessFan: 19...Qa5+ seems obvious.> I guess he didn't see the mate-in-3 so wasn't looking for a way to avoid it. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | Allderdice83: 19 ... Qa5+ 20. Kf1 Qa6+ etc. 1/2-1/2.
Or 20. Kd1 Qa4+ and White's in danger of getting mated, and probably has to go for 21. b3 Qxd4+ 22. Kc2 Qc3+ (of course not 22 ... Qxa1?? 23. Nd6+ Kd8 24. Qe8+ Kc7 25. Qd7+ Kb8 26. Qxb7#) 23. Kb1 Qd3+ 24. Kb2 Qc3+ 25. Ka3 Qa5+ 26. Kb2 Qc3+ etc. Still, while the end is flawed, the final combo is a delight. |
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| Sep-04-23 | | Allderdice83: Also, after 19 ... Qa5+, Black can next play 20 ... Nf6. Eg., 19 ... Qa5+ 20. Ke2 Nf6, and White must take the perpetual check with 21. Nd6+ Kd8 22. Nf7+ Ke8 23. Nd6+ etc. White can't play into 22. Nxb7+? Kc7 23. Nxa5 Nxh5 -- this is -1.5 with Black still up a knight for 2 pawns. However, Black can't try to escape with 22 ... Kc7 23. Qe5+ Nd6 24. Nxd6! (better than 24. cxd6+ although the latter is not bad) Qa6+ 25. Ke1 Kd8 26. Bf4, +1.7. Both players have each other over the same barrel and must accept the draw or give the other the advantage. |
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Sep-04-23
 | | offramp: Great game and pun! |
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Kibitzing
sac: 10.Qxe2