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Frank Melville Teed vs Eugene Delmar
New York (1896), New York, NY USA
Dutch Defense: Hopton Attack (A80)  ·  1-0

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Oct-02-06  JeLiFF7: i take that back actually about black's moves being forced. Mayb 5. e3 Nf6 would have saved black temporairily and black would drop a pawn, or 6. bd3 bg7 would be ok but black would lose castling rights.
Oct-02-06  dzechiel: Back to Monday! Saw it in less than a second. After 2...h6 (a dreadful move) I might have been tempted to play 3 e4 just to see if black would tumble for the pitfall.
Oct-02-06  prinsallan: Easy. Why oh why can't I ever play against players this bad? :P
Oct-02-06  MrPatzer: I got this, but only because I beat someone in an internet blitz game nearly the same way some months back. What's odd is that my opponent was a beginner (and like many beginners he didn't get that whole develop-the-pieces and grab-the-center business), but Mr. Eugene Delmar seems to have been a fairly strong player. He must have been having one lousy day.
Oct-02-06
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  Eggman: <<Saw it in less than a second. After 2...h6 (a dreadful move) I might have been tempted to play 3 e4 just to see if black would tumble for the pitfall.>>

3.e4?? hxg5!

<<Mayb 5. e3 Nf6 would have saved black temporairily and black would drop a pawn, or 6. bd3 bg7 would be ok but black would lose castling rights.>>

As noted above, Black should play 6...e6 intending 7.exf4 h4.

Oct-02-06  vibes43: Ah, aren't monday's a relief. Nice moves. White got black tower doing double duty. This has taken out airliners.
Oct-02-06  ahmadov: No doubt that Black is a weak player and that it is a very easy puzzle, but I like White's move's 4,5 and 6.
Oct-02-06  ryanpd: Analysis with Rybka 1.2n: 6...d6 7.exf4 h4 8.Nf3 e6 9.Bg6+ Kd7 10.Nxg5 hxg3 11.Bf7 Qe7 12.Bxe6+ Ke8 13.0-0 = (0.06) Depth: 19 00:19:40 43184kN

Oct-02-06  ryanpd: Rybka does not think 6...e6 is as strong:

7. Bg6+ Ke7 8. exf4 h4 9. fxg5! hxg3 10. fxg3, where black's severe problems with development give compensation for the piece.

Oct-02-06  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <Eggman> I don't like you line <3.e4?? hxg5!> too much.
Oct-02-06  charms: Eugene Delmar was not a patzer... at least, he defeated James Marshall once (albeit due to a blunder of Marshall.) He was the strongest player of the US for a long time, so it is quite astonishing that he is trapped thus easily.
Oct-02-06
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  Eggman: <<This is the shortest game with a decisive sac.>>

What about De Legal vs Saint Brie, 1750?

Oct-02-06  Wilson H. L.: Got it... But I already knew this Dutch Opening trap
Oct-02-06  RookFile: To show you how stupid the chessmetrics rating system is, Eugene Delmar supposedly achieved the same career highest rating of 2658 that Morphy achieved.
Oct-02-06  JustAFish: As a d4 player I used to fear the dutch defence, because the black bishop always seemed to be in danger. When I figured out the mating resource of an over zealous attack on the bishop, my concerns relaxed. I've won a number of blitz games against newbie dutch players in this manner.
Oct-02-06  ajile: duh!

lol

Oct-02-06  shintaro go: What was White's plan with 4. Bg3?
Oct-02-06  RookFile: Well, if black plays more rationally,
I know that sometimes white plays h4 in positions like this, making black clarify what he's going to go with his g pawn. Then based on this information, white knows where to develop his g1 knight.
Oct-02-06  ianD: You are joking! nobody could be this baaaaaad.
Oct-02-06  YouRang: An easy and humorous mate puzzle. One can't help but notice the sorrowful state that the black king is in: Any diagonal check is mate!

Of course, white has 2 pieces that can give a diagonal check, and black can only defend against one. End of story.

Oct-02-06
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  kevin86: Monday puzzles! In today's case,I would be a fool to miss this one-as the mate is a derivitive of the "fools mate".

Black tried a Noah's Ark trap only to lose his entire ship!

Oct-02-06  YouRang: <RookFile: To show you how stupid the chessmetrics rating system is, Eugene Delmar supposedly achieved the same career highest rating of 2658 that Morphy achieved.>

The way I see it, Morphy had a "highest chessmetrics rating" of 2743, not 2658. :-|

http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play...

Oct-02-06  Marmot PFL: 2...h6 is OK. 3..Nf6 followed by d6 would give black a very playabe position. He can later play g5 or prepare e5 depending on white's play.
Oct-02-06  bakuazer: guys and girls,
i think you are all missing the point. The puzzle is not about what is the white's move but what exactly happened to black(E.Delmar) on that day. as i see from the above posts, no one has actually solved this puzzle yet.
Oct-02-06  artemis: bakuazer: I think it is safe to say that he lost a chess game.
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