Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Myers vs Henry R Meifert
Racine (1955)
Van Geet (Dunst) Opening: Gruenfeld Defense (A00)  ·  1-0



find similar games 7 more games of H Meifert
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: If we are missing an important game, you can submit it (in PGN format) at our PGN Upload Utility.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
Jun-01-03  Rookpawn: In retrospect, 7... Nf6 would have served Black much better.
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: Let's dissect this disaster. The plausible 2 ... de 3. Nxe4 e5!? worked great for White, because after 4. Nf3 how does Black defend the Pe5? If 4 ... Nbd7 5. Bc4 Ngf6 6. Neg5 and f7 is an immediate problem. If 4 ... f6 5. d4 with a free hand. There's the ugly 4 ... Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd6 (5 ... Qd5 6. Nc3 & 7. 0-0) 6. d4 ed 7. Qxd4 Nf6 8. Bg5 Be7 and Black might get two sets of doubled Pawns. So if Black desired ... e5, perhaps 2 ... d4 3. Nce2 e5 was the ideal route, also this closes the center. Black's solution of 4 ... Bg4 protected e5 but created new problems on b7. 5. Bc4 is tempting (threat 6. Bxf7+! Kxf7 7. Nxe5 & 8. Nxg4), but with 5 ... Nf6 the Ne4 hangs at the end, so 5. h3 was best. After 6. Qxf3 c6 protects b7 - 7. Bc4 Nf6 8. Qb3 Qd7 - although Black gets doubled Pawns on f6. Instead 6 ... Be7 7. Bc4 and if 7 ... Nf6 8. Nxf6+ & 9. Qxb7 wins a Pawn, but Black can play on. After 7 ... Nh6 8. d3 Black had to accept 8 ... 0-0 9. Bxh6 gxh6 with a bad game, instead of 8 ... g5? 9. Qh5 with no defense (9 ... Bf8 10. Bxg5). Therefore 3 ... e5!? was overly ambitious.
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: 3...e5 is perfectly playable. Note that after 4.Nf3 White isn't really attacking the e-pawn, e.g. 4...Be6 5.Nxe5?? Qd4, winning. 4...Nf6 is fine for Black, and 4...f5!? is also possible, when 5.Nxe5? is refuted by 5...Qd4! 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Nxg6 Qxe4+ 8.Be2 Nf6. Harald Keilhack, "Knight on the Left: 1.Nc3", p. 135. Usually White plays 4.Bc4, setting the trap 4...Be7? 5.Qh5! . Instead, 4...Nc6! is correct.
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: Myers-Meifert

click for larger view

8...g5 is like giving up the game, better is 8...castle

Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <wordfunph> Yes. My guess is that Meifert saw that 8...0-0 9.Qh5! (attacking e5 and h6; weaker is 9.Bxh6 gxh6 10.Qh5 Bg5!) wins a pawn. But the "cure" was much worse than the disease, since as you say 9.Qh5 completely crushes 8...g5??
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Uf3 tried to snare Fredthebear
by fredthebear
Van Geet (Dunst) Opening: Gruenfeld Defense (A00) 1-0 Q fork
from -ER Others by fredthebear
9 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection XI by wwall
1. Nc3 d5 2. e4
from tpstar Variants by tpstar
9 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection XI by PinkLedDoor

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC