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Sep-01-04 | | sneaky pete: Tom (not Timo) Bottema was in a hurry to catch a train to be in time for a Madonna concert. Klip needed a win for a possible IM result, and a win by forfeit wouldn't count, so Bottema obliged him with this helpmate. |
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Oct-29-04 | | Apocalypse79: Was black player a master ?? really ? Oh, poor guy ! he must give away title into 4-5 year old kids.. lol |
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Oct-29-04 | | clocked: Why laugh? Black perfectly executed a game plan from the first move to mate. |
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Oct-29-04 | | Apocalypse79: <clocked> Perfect ?? Are you a blind-man ?? oh.. sorry. you are a monkey. lol See the truth except his title. you don't see the game directly... |
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Oct-29-04
 | | Willem Wallekers: <sneaky> So ever since this is known as the Madonna defense? |
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Feb-01-05 | | aw1988: I played in not necessarily a tournament, not an official one anyways, more of a friendly affair, Chicago 1971, I was black, time control same as normal day, and I was talking to the fellow next to me, who also had black (he later won this game in brilliant style in a QID): I: This is nice, isn't it? (1. e4, I however thought this was 1. c4) Him: Ah, yes, a lovely sunny day. (I play 1...f6, thinking that it is 1...Nf6. Once again, this is a very informal tournament...) 2. d4 Him: So, tell me good man, are you interested in cigars? (I play 2...g5, thinking this is 2...g6, I was aiming for a KID...) I: Nay, bad for the health. Him: Ah, Sir, I believe you have been mated. (3. Qh5#) |
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Feb-01-05 | | aw1988: He later made the joke "it is because you do not smoke!"... |
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Mar-14-05 | | priluki: LOOOOOL! Madonna defence!! LOL!!! :DDDD |
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Mar-14-05 | | Rocafella: <-_-> nice defending, is this guy really a GM? |
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Nov-27-05 | | Chopin: Bottema should get arrested after this game :) |
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Dec-05-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <priluki> I would prefer the Britney Spears defense. :) |
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Feb-03-06 | | Whitehat1963: Bottema got spanked!! |
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Sep-04-06
 | | OhioChessFan: <So ever since this is known as the Madonna defense? > Never takes long to be mated with Madonna. |
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Nov-11-06 | | Bob726: Is 1. f6 the worst defense possible? |
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Dec-08-06
 | | alexmagnus: <Mikhail Tal lost against a relative ( a cousin I guess ... ) in a similar fashion !!! ( it was his first game and he did remember it !!! ) > As I far as I know, Tal's very first game was lost by a Scholar's mate, not by a Fool's Mate. |
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Apr-25-08 | | JimmyVermeer: aw1988, how can you possibly move a pawn and think it was a knight? Were you drunk? |
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Dec-09-08 | | WhiteRook48: Ha ha ha ha... |
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Jan-21-09 | | WhiteRook48: 2. Nc3 also works. |
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Apr-11-09 | | WhiteRook48: see Mayfield vs Trinks, 1959 for a similar game. |
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Jul-23-14
 | | FSR: Poor Bottema was still exhausted from his 78-move win over Van Wely two years earlier. T Bottema vs Van Wely, 1988 |
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Jul-23-14
 | | perfidious: Black got Klipped in short order. |
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Feb-11-17 | | Rafaelvleite: And this guy is 2300 FIDE... unbelievable |
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Sep-02-23
 | | FSR: Something is rotten in Dieren. Bottema is way too strong to get fool's mated. |
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Sep-02-23
 | | perfidious: Maybe this was played in a Klip joint. |
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Sep-11-23
 | | FSR: Perhaps Bottema was taking lessons from Vladimir Kramnik, who later used this bayonet attack to brilliant effect in Niemann vs Kramnik, 2023. Sadly, Klip found the refutation that Niemann overlooked. |
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