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Johannes Zukertort vs Adolf Anderssen
Berlin (1865), Berlin GER
Spanish Game: Cozio Defense. General (C60)  ·  1-0



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Jan-10-07  Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself!

I would mark 8.Nxf7? because while our lines were complex 9...d5 10.Bxd5+ Ke7 11.Qh4 Be8 still seems a good and simple refutation of the sacrifice to me

Jan-10-07  Fisheremon: <Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself!> Yeah, actually I like a non-standard solution of the problem, then I try to enter so far to the game itself. Thanks anyway and let's have a see with other games !
Jan-10-07  JYMMI: I saw Bg5+ hxg Qxg5
Jan-11-07  dakgootje: Noted needs to be it's in the database aswell as Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865
Mar-17-07  venk98: awesome! i hav the same game in my chessmaster 10th edition....i always like zukertort's play..they 're full of sacrifices n sharp tactics!
May-20-07  suenteus po 147: This game is the "correct" version according to Tartakower and Du Mont, in that it was played, once, in Breslau. The final moves, though, are 11.Bg5+ hxg5 12.Qxg5#
Sep-07-07  Dilbertarian: Crafty sees 8.Nxf7? as weak, because of Kxf7. 9.Bc4+, Ke8! 10. Qh5, Qf6. 11. f4, exd4. 12. f5, dxc3. 13. Qxg6 (fxg6 ? cxb2!) Qxg6. 14. fxg6, cxb2 and Black is better off.

So the gem is basically flawed!

Nov-01-07  Cibator: Purists would argue that you shouldn't sac more material than is strictly necessary - hence (11)Bg5+ is "more correct" than (11)Qg5+. But having the chance, who wouldn't give up the Q instead?!
Aug-28-08  dwavechess: very true cibator. Zukertort concur with rybka 2.3.2 at 14 ply in 9/11
Aug-28-08  Zonszein: Zukertot was not inferior to Steinitz. Unless it was just psychlogically

I think

Sep-10-08  dwavechess: For Rybka 3 w32 6/11 at 3 minutes per move, Rybka doesn't sees the possibilities of the knight or Anderssen had a better defense.
May-09-09  tommy boy: GOTD please
Mar-19-10  Antiochus:

The same thing happened in this duplicate game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865

Aug-13-10  Antiochus: This famous game Steinitz vs G Neumann, 1870 is repeated here
Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 . Two twins in the notable area.
May-24-11  Llawdogg: Wow! Holy Cow!
Jun-11-11  Antiochus: Best version of the same game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865
Jun-21-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865.
Your score: 18 (par = 17)


Aug-15-12  Bezlitosci: Impressive that a player like Anderssen could make a blunder like 10...♕e8, allowing mate in two
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  GrahamClayton: 7...h6? - 7...♗e7 is much better, forcing the White knight to retreat.
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  naresb: After 9. Bc4 another alternative:--

9... Ke8
10. Qh5; Qf6

10. Qf3; Qf6

Whether these alternatives hold good?

Dec-04-14  Ke2: <naresb> Definitely A. Follow up with 11. f4 and White has a strong attack, although comp says -.3
Feb-10-23  generror: Ouch that hurt... This game probably was one of the reasons why Anderssen had trouble to be recognized as the world's best player. But from what I read, I feel that he wasn't that much interested in titles.

And as others have pointed out, <8.Nxf7?> doesn't seem to be sound. Anderssen lost because he blundered twice in a row with <9...Ke7??> (blocking his queen), and <10...Qe8??> (blocking e8 and allowing the quick mate, although the first blunder is already losing).

If Anderssen had gone <9...Ke8>, he would have been quite fine after <10.Qh5 Qf6 11.f4 exd4 12.f5 Ne5! 13.fxg6 Bg4! 14.Bf7+ Kd7 15.Rxf6 Bxh5 16.Rf5 Bg4 17.Rf2 d3> (D).

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I agree the position is quite unclear, but it's definitively not losing, and White really hasn't got anything. Despite material being equal, Stockfish says it's about -1.5.

Also, if -- in this variation -- White plays <14.Qxg4 Nxg4 15.Rxf6 Nxf6 16.cxd4 Nxe4> (D), this ends with pretty much the same evaluation, even here though White is down the exchange.

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Is this the shortest game any world champion (official or unofficial, it's just a stupid word anyway) ever lost? (I'm only talking classical chess, I think I remember Carlsen blundering in a blitz game once.)

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  beatgiant: <generror>
There is at least one other famous one as short, L Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993.

To find more, you can check out Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 1., Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 2., Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 3.

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  beatgiant: Another candidate for the shortest: A Zapata vs Anand, 1988
Feb-12-23  generror: Thank you, <beatgiant> :D
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