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Jan-10-07 | | Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself! I would mark 8.Nxf7? because while our lines were complex 9...d5 10.Bxd5+ Ke7 11.Qh4 Be8 still seems a good and simple refutation of the sacrifice to me |
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Jan-10-07 | | Fisheremon: <Marco65: <Fisheremon> Like me, it seems you like such analyses more than solving the puzzle itself!> Yeah, actually I like a non-standard solution of the problem, then I try to enter so far to the game itself. Thanks anyway and let's have a see with other games ! |
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Jan-10-07 | | JYMMI: I saw Bg5+ hxg Qxg5 |
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Jan-11-07 | | dakgootje: Noted needs to be it's in the database aswell as Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 |
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Mar-17-07 | | venk98: awesome! i hav the same game in my chessmaster 10th edition....i always like zukertort's play..they 're full of sacrifices n sharp tactics! |
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May-20-07 | | suenteus po 147: This game is the "correct" version according to Tartakower and Du Mont, in that it was played, once, in Breslau. The final moves, though, are 11.Bg5+ hxg5 12.Qxg5# |
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Sep-07-07 | | Dilbertarian: Crafty sees 8.Nxf7? as weak, because of Kxf7. 9.Bc4+, Ke8! 10. Qh5, Qf6. 11. f4, exd4. 12. f5, dxc3. 13. Qxg6 (fxg6 ? cxb2!) Qxg6. 14. fxg6, cxb2 and Black is better off. So the gem is basically flawed! |
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Nov-01-07 | | Cibator: Purists would argue that you shouldn't sac more material than is strictly necessary - hence (11)Bg5+ is "more correct" than (11)Qg5+. But having the chance, who wouldn't give up the Q instead?! |
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Aug-28-08 | | dwavechess: very true cibator. Zukertort concur with rybka 2.3.2 at 14 ply in 9/11 |
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Aug-28-08 | | Zonszein: Zukertot was not inferior to Steinitz. Unless it was just psychlogically I think |
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Sep-10-08 | | dwavechess: For Rybka 3 w32 6/11 at 3 minutes per move, Rybka doesn't sees the possibilities of the knight or Anderssen had a better defense. |
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May-09-09 | | tommy boy: GOTD please |
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Mar-19-10 | | Antiochus: Chessgames.com
The same thing happened in this duplicate game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 |
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Aug-13-10 | | Antiochus: This famous game Steinitz vs G Neumann, 1870
is repeated here
Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 .
Two twins in the notable area. |
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May-24-11 | | Llawdogg: Wow! Holy Cow! |
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Jun-11-11 | | Antiochus: Best version of the same game Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865 |
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Jun-21-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Zukertort vs Anderssen, 1865.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF ZUKERTORT.
Your score: 18 (par = 17)
LTJ |
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Aug-15-12 | | Bezlitosci: Impressive that a player like Anderssen could make a blunder like 10...♕e8, allowing mate in two |
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Sep-17-12
 | | GrahamClayton: 7...h6? - 7...♗e7 is much better, forcing the White knight to retreat. |
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May-27-14
 | | naresb: After 9. Bc4 another alternative:--
(A)
9... Ke8
10. Qh5; Qf6
(B)
9...Ke8
10. Qf3; Qf6
Whether these alternatives hold good? |
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Dec-04-14 | | Ke2: <naresb> Definitely A. Follow up with 11. f4 and White has a strong attack, although comp says -.3 |
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Feb-10-23 | | generror: Ouch that hurt... This game probably was one of the reasons why Anderssen had trouble to be recognized as the world's best player. But from what I read, I feel that he wasn't that much interested in titles. And as others have pointed out, <8.Nxf7?> doesn't seem to be sound. Anderssen lost because he blundered twice in a row with <9...Ke7??> (blocking his queen), and <10...Qe8??> (blocking e8 and allowing the quick mate, although the first blunder is already losing). If Anderssen had gone <9...Ke8>, he would have been quite fine after <10.Qh5 Qf6 11.f4 exd4 12.f5 Ne5! 13.fxg6 Bg4! 14.Bf7+ Kd7 15.Rxf6 Bxh5 16.Rf5 Bg4 17.Rf2 d3> (D).  click for larger viewI agree the position is quite unclear, but it's definitively not losing, and White really hasn't got anything. Despite material being equal, Stockfish says it's about -1.5. Also, if -- in this variation -- White plays <14.Qxg4 Nxg4 15.Rxf6 Nxf6 16.cxd4 Nxe4> (D), this ends with pretty much the same evaluation, even here though White is down the exchange.  click for larger viewIs this the shortest game any world champion (official or unofficial, it's just a stupid word anyway) ever lost? (I'm only talking classical chess, I think I remember Carlsen blundering in a blitz game once.) |
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Feb-10-23
 | | beatgiant: <generror>
There is at least one other famous one as short, L Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993. To find more, you can check out Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 1., Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 2.,
Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 3. |
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Feb-10-23
 | | beatgiant: Another candidate for the shortest: A Zapata vs Anand, 1988 |
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Feb-12-23 | | generror: Thank you, <beatgiant> :D |
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