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Johann Nepomuk Berger vs Frohlich
Graz (1888), Graz AUH
Three Knights Opening: General (C46)  ·  1-0



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Jul-27-03  Yuri54: 9.Nxb3 alleviates the white attack 10.Nxg4 Nxa1 White will win the knight for the exchange but will be down in material
Jul-27-03  hickchess99: actually, you missed something. if Nxa1 then Nf6+, gxf6, Nxf6++
Jul-27-03  unclewalter: huh? how can the knight go to f6 twice? ...i don't understand this problem. it seems after 9. ...Nxb3 or dxe5 black is fine.
Jul-27-03  chankins: 9...Nxb3; 10.Nxg4 Nxa1??; 11.Nf6+ gxf6; 12.Nxf6++. Black does seem okay with 9...dxe5. By exchanging pieces at b3 and d5 he should even get the pawn back, any thoughts?
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  crafty: 9...dxe5 10. ♕xg4 ♘xb3 11. axb3 f5 12. ♕h3 ♘xd5 13. exd5   (eval 0.50; depth 15 ply; 150M nodes)
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  Sneaky: uclewalter, the knight can go to f6 twice because it's two different knights! both hickchess and chankins should got a little sloppy with their notation by not specifying which knight drops in first (even though it doesn't make doodly-squat of a difference)

9...♘xb3 10.♘xg4 ♘xa1?? 11.♘df6+ gxf6 12.♘gxf6#

About 9...dxe5 yes of course that's a better move, but it wouldn't make for a very interesting game then would it? =)

Jul-27-03  unclewalter: 9. ...NxB 10. NxB NxN would work, right?
Jul-27-03  hickchess99: i guess that wards off mate, but maybe white comes out a pawn ahead?
Jul-27-03  Benjamin Lau: Berger probably saw the possible mate ever since 6... Nge7?! In either case, very nice.
Jul-27-03  nateinstein: Seems like we are only looking to find an interesting move, rather than a straight win. The mate is not forced, and it seems drawish after black plays Nxb3 then Nxg4, Nxd5 then white has to play either Qxb3 or axb3. After that black retreats knight to f6, and is down a pawn. Or as crafty points out, dxe5. In any case this is no game winning tactic we are looking at. Only a hopeful blunder made by black.
Jul-28-03  hickchess99: really nothing to do with chess, and i doubt you care, but nateinstein, the link to your site on your bio won't work because you've added an exclamation mark.
Jul-28-03  hickchess99: hey sneaky, chankins and i weren't the only ones to get a little sloppy. what does "both hickchess and chankins should got a little sloppy" mean.
Jul-28-03  hickchess99: yes sneaky, i believe you have the solution pinned(harhar) with the last comment.
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  Sneaky: This is a great puzzle. I think the point is that after 8...Na5? White said, "Hey!! There's a free pawn for the taking, and I'm going to take it, and break this annoying pin at the same time!" 9.Nxe5 kabamm! Thanks for the pawn, sucker!

<hickchess> should got would have might got a little should sloppy got a should would *hiccup* sorry I'm better now =)

Jul-05-04  DanielBryant: Very nice square clearance.
Oct-19-04  sleepy4x: What happens after 9...Nxb3 ?
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  tpstar: <sleepy4x> Hello! Welcome to the group! 9 ... Nxb3 is correct and far superior to the game continuation which loses outright. White would play 10. Nxg4! because 10 ... Nxa1? 11. Ngf6+! gxf6 12. Nxf6#, therefore 10 ... Nxd5 11. Qxb3 Nf6 12. Nxf6+ Qxf6 and Black is only down a Pawn. Many miniature losses involve grabbing the free Queen without thinking about it.
Oct-20-04  sneaky pete: <tpstar> Even more correct and superior is 9... dxe5 10.Qxg4 Nxb3 11.axb3 Nxd5 12.exd5 Qxd5 with approximately even chances.
Oct-21-04  sleepy4x: Many thanks to tpstar and sneaky p.!
Jul-03-05  Whitehat1963: LOVE IT! Crushing game from the Player of the Day.
Jul-03-05  Giancarlo: Not very crushing, infact very risky and losable. Just more lucky he wasn't playing me ;-) ahaha
Jul-03-05  Whitehat1963: <Giancarlo> I didn't mean "flawless." I simply meant that I would certainly have felt crushed if I had been playing black. I'm just admiring how quickly and beautifully the goal is achieved here.
Jul-03-05  farrooj: Ouch! <averts his eyes>
Jul-03-05  aw1988: A kind of Legall's mate, though this one is especially pretty.
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