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Jacques Mieses vs Johannes Wilhelm Ohquist
"You Don't Know Jacques" (game of the day Jul-01-2011)
Nuremberg (1895), Nuremberg GER, Jun-25
Scandinavian Defense: Ilundain Variation (B01)  ·  1-0



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Apr-02-15  patzer2: Here's a breakout with Deep Fritz 14 and the Opening Explorer:

<1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd8 4. d4 Nc6?!> This can't be good for Black. Better here is the popular move 4...Nf6 as in Black's win in Caruana vs Carlsen, 2014.

<5. Nf3 Bg4?> The beginning of Black's demise. Better here is 5...e6 6. Bb5 .

<6. d5 Ne5?> The clear losing move. Putting up more resistance is 6... Bxf3 7. Qxf3 Nd4 8. Qc3 c5 9. Be3 to .

<7. Nxe5 Bxd1 8. Bb5+ c6>

If 8... Qd7, then White wins after 9. Bxd7+ Kd8 10. Nxf7+ Kxd7 11. Kxd1 g6 12. Nxh8 Bg7 13. Nf7 Rf8 14. Ng5 Rxf2 15. Rg1 Bd4 16. Ne6 Bxc3 17. bxc3 Nf6 18. c4 Ne4 19. Be3 Rf5 20. Ke2 .

<9. dxc6 Qc7>

If 9... bxc6, then White wins after 10. Bxc6+ Qd7 11. Bxd7+ Kd8 12. Bc6 Rc8 13. Bf4 Rxc6 14. Rxd1+ Rd6 15. Nxf7+ Ke8 16. Nxh8 .

<10. cxb7+ Kd8>

If 10... Qd7, then 11. bxa8=Q#

If 10... Qc6, then 11. bxa8=Q#

<11. Nxf7# 1-0>

Apr-02-15  morfishine: No way White Mieses this tactic: <7.Nxe5> and all Black can do is bumble along, hemorrhaging material while falling inexorably into a lost position

7...Bxd1 8.Bb5+ c6 9.dxc6 e6 10.c7+ Ke7
11.cxd8=Q+ Rxd8 12.Nxd1

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Down two pieces, Black can resign

More like a Tuesday puzzle, but I'm not complaining!


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  agb2002: The material is identical.

White can make the most of its development advantage with 7.Nxe5 Bxd1 (else drops a knight) 8.Bb5+:

A) 8... c6 9.dxc6 (threatens 10.c7+ Qd7 11.Bxd7#)

A.1) 9... Qc7 10.cxb7+ is a massacre (10... Kd8 11.Nxf7#).

A.2) 9... bxc6 10.Bxc6+ Qd7 11.Bxd7+ Kd8 12.Nxf7+ Kxd7 13.Nxd1 Ke8 14.Nxh8 + - [R+N+2P].

A.3) 9... e6 10.c7+ Ke7 11.cxd8=Q+ Rxd8 12.Nxd1 + - [N].

A.4) 9... a6 10.c7+ axb5 11.cxd8=Q+ Rxd8 12.Nxd1 + - [N].

A.5) 9... Qd6 10.cxb7+ followed by 11.bxa8=Q+ wins.

B) 8... Qd7 9.Bxd7+ Kd8 10.Nxf7+ Kxd7 11.Nxd1 Ke8 12.Nxh8 + - [R+N+P].

Apr-02-15  wooden nickel: The mate at the end tops it all!
...reminds me of this game:
C M Saulson vs H Phillips, 1907
Apr-02-15  zb2cr: Another line is 9. ... a6; 10. c7+, axb6; 11. cxd8=Q+, Rxd8; 12. Nxd1. White winds up a piece ahead.
Apr-02-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: In this opening trap position, black has left the king open to pursue a pin that is a mirage. Similarly to the Legal's Mate trap, white can take the foolhardy knight:

7.Nxe5! Bxd1 8.Bb5+ c6 (Qd7? 9.Bxd7+ Kd8 10.Nxd1 is simplest) 9.dc a6 (otherwise c7+ can force mate) 10.c7+ axb5 11.cxd8=Q Rxd8 12.Nxd1 and white is a minor piece up.

Apr-02-15  TheaN: Thursday 2 April 2015 <7.?>

I think I am familliar with an opening trap of sorts. A variation of Legál's trap, showing that proper positioning of minor pieces is worth a queen.

<7.Nxe5!> and the Bg4 pin backfires immediately on black. Black doesn't have much better than <7....Bxd1 8.Bb5+>. If black plays 8....Qd7 now, he surrenders at least two pieces to 9.Bxd7+ Kd8 10.Kxd1 . <8....c6 9.dxc6!>. Although it seems black has plenty of resources to recover after dxc6, the combined threat of c7+ and cxb7+ with bxa8=Q+ limits black's options:

A) any form of passing, lets say <9....Rc8/b6/Nh6/> leads to <10.c7+ Qd7 11.Bxd7# 1-0>

B) <9....Nf6/Bg4 10.cxb7+ N/Bd7 11.Bxd7+ Qxd7 12.bxa8=Q+ Qd8 13.Qc6+ Qd7 14.Qxd7# 1-0> this is also the answer to any queen move, except 9....Qd5 Nxd5 .

C) <9....Be2> attacking Bb5 <10.Kxe2 > allows white to pick up the piece with tempo.

D) <9....a6> possibly the most annoying defense, white goes a piece up with <10.c7+ axb5 11.cxd8+ Rxd8 12.Nxd1 >

Apr-02-15  gofer: I nearly got the move order wrong and played Bb5+ first, but black can recover its mistake and play Nd7 at which point the game looks like being pretty equal.

<7 Nxe5! ...>

Black has no choice, giving up a whole knight on move 7 is not going to win the game!

<7 ... Bxd1>
<8 Bb5+ ...>

The trap is sprung! From here black is losing...

<8 ... c6>
<9 dxc6 ...>

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It is all too painful. I see nothing for black but death...



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  Penguincw: I should've look a bit further, as I got 7.Ne5 Bxd1. I was thinking of Legal's mate, but there's no bishop targetting f7.
Apr-02-15  whiteshark: Just watch out the hidden ♗ on b5!
Apr-02-15  whiteshark: Just watch out the hidden ♗omb5!
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  Once: I thought this one looked familiar! We have been this way before.

I couldn't work out whether to capture on c6 with knight or the pawn 9.Nxc6 or 9.dxc6.

Fritzie says that both win, but 9.dxc6 is stronger by about a couple of pawns.

Black's 9...Qc7? turns a losing position into a mate. Instead, Fritz suggests 9...Be2 or 9...a6 to do something about that terrible Bb5. Black still loses, of course, but he doesn't suffer the indignity of being mated by a knight.

Apr-02-15  A.T PhoneHome: Didn't get this one, then again I wasn't aware of this trap.

Great one by Mr. Mieses and that pun is clever!

"Mie ses you will get mated!"

Have a wonderful day/night people!

Apr-02-15  fokers13: seen the idea as many others,yet i believe i'd have found it nonetheless.

not exactly difficult.

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  Sneaky: If you've never seen this motif before in your life, it takes a little bit of calculation to see that it really works. There are a number of variations.

But if you've seen games like D Genz vs D Boehmer, 1985 this is just old hat. I think I've won this exact way scores of times on chess servers.

Apr-02-15  kevin86: Variation on the legal theme. Black is mated in a different way.
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  playground player: "Fie, fie upon a conquered king!"--Henry II
Apr-02-15  gars: Beautiful!!
Apr-02-15  dfcx: Isn't this position well known?

7.Nxe5 Bxd1 8.Bb5+ c6 9.dxc6 and black can't defend c7+ (if queen stays) and cxb7+ (if queen moves). For example,

A. 9...Qb6 10.cxb7+ Qxb5 11.Qxa1+ Qb8 12.Qxb8#
B. 9...a6 10.c7+ axb5 11.cxd8=Q+ Rxd8 12.Nxd1

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  gawain: I must have seen this one in an anthology somewhere. Still good.
Apr-02-15  BOSTER: <Domdaniel: "doll " might be cheaper>. <Once: she was your own laydee -owned pay for>. I guess many have read fantastic A. Pushkin's "The Egyptian Nights", where Cleopatra , as a fatal lover , proposed <Aristocratic Art> , the one <love-night > at the price of her partner's life.

" And there were found adores whom such a condition neither frighted nor repelled." Has somebody noticed <Once > there?

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  agb2002: Black's weakness along the a4-e8 diagonal reminded me of Janowski vs E Schallopp, 1896.
Apr-02-15  Karne: In this game, Mieses exhibits furnished hatred for the d-rank.
Aug-31-16  kishore4u: Mieses!!!B-)
Aug-31-16  JimNorCal: Wait. Isn't Morf the guy who criticizes making lame puns on player's names? Heh.

Morfishine: "No way White Mieses this tactic"

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