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| Aug-15-04 | | Lawrence: Ah, the thraldom of only having 6 engines. Did you say blitz? |
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Aug-16-04
 | | Zenchess: Yeah, I said blitz. I also had Chess Tiger do longer analysis; the best it could do for White was +1.00. |
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| Aug-16-04 | | Lawrence: <Zenchess>, Junior 8 can't find even that, and after a 25 min. chew gives 10.......Nd5
11.Qxd5 Bxd5
12.Bxd5 Qf6
13.Nxf7 c6
14.Nxh8 cxd5
15.0-0 Bd6 eval -0.10 i.e. equality |
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Aug-17-04
| | Zenchess: I don't have Junior, but I'd like to. None of my engines ventured into this line, but Junior must be a cold-blooded defender. |
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| Feb-22-06 | | Whitehat1963: Fun little puzzle after 8...Bb7. Enjoy. |
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| Feb-22-06 | | Whitehat1963: What about 10...Bd5? |
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| Feb-23-06 | | Whitehat1963: Come to think of it, what about: 10...Nd5
11. Bxd5 Bxd6
12. Nxf7 Qb8 (Qc8? 13. Bxb7) |
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| May-11-07 | | jellyace: 10. ... Bd5 loses two pieces after 11. Bxd5 Nxd5 12. Qxd5. On 10. ... Nd5, 11. Qxd7+ Qxd7 12. Nxd7 Kxd7 equalizes. White cannot afford R+N vs Q because he is badly behind in development and will lose a lot of pawns by the endgame. |
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| Oct-25-07 | | GSankarN: Why did Meyer have to resign? |
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| Oct-25-07 | | Karpova: <GSankarN: Why did Meyer have to resign?> After 10.Qxd6 black is down a piece and white threatens checkmate (that's why black can't take the queen: 10...cxd6 11.Bxf7#) |
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| May-10-08 | | egarcillan: maybe white lose after Nd5!! white queenless |
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| Mar-25-09 | | WhiteRook48: <egarcillian>
after 10 Qxd6 Nd5 11 Qxd5 Bxd5 12 Bxd5 white has two knights and a bishop for the queen |
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| Nov-25-09 | | PinName: As a casual player, I'm sure I'm missing something, but why not 10...Qc8? |
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Nov-25-09
 | | Chessical: <Pinname> After <10...Qc8> 11. Bxf7+ Kd8 12. Qd3 White is a Knight up with no problems. |
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| Dec-08-09 | | PinName: I guess. Black can still pick off the g-pawn. It just seems a little early to throw in the towel. |
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| Feb-18-10 | | estebansponton: black has not to resign. Interestin position before 10... Nd5 11 Qxd5 Bxd5 12 Bxd5 Bb4+ !? 13 c3 0-0 with advantage for white but the position is no clair |
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| Feb-29-12 | | Kartagener: what if
.... 10.Nd5
11. Qxd7 Qxd7
12. Nxd7 Kxd7
13. 0-0
Isn´t the game equal then ? |
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Feb-29-12
 | | maxi: <Kartagener> Yes, it would seem so to me. But, in practice and especially against a player that is playing the position for the first time, Black's position is difficult to play, even if it is not inferior... |
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| Mar-02-13 | | Whitehat1963: Congratulations! |
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| Feb-06-16 | | TheFocus: "J.R. Capablanca proved to be the winner in the rapid transit tournament at the Manhattan Chess Club, on March 5, sixteen players having entered the competition which was conducted under a time limit of twenty seconds a move. L.B. Meyer took the second prize. The latter lost to Capablanca in the final round in the following curious fashion: Ruy Lopez 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.d4 Nxe4 6.d5 Ne7 7.Nxe5 b5 8.Bb3 Bb7 9.d6 Nxd6 10.Qxd6 threatening mate by Bxf7+. Meyer, who was Black, resigned here, overlooking the fact that he still had a fighting chance by playing ...Nd5, intercepting the Bishop and disclosing on the Queen. In this case, Capablanca either would have had to play Qxd5+ and return the piece or exchange his Queen for three pieces," - <American Chess Bulletin>, June 1908, pg. 117. |
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| Jun-27-17 | | bla bla: very niceeeeee combinatioooon |
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Nov-25-17
 | | tpstar: <Meyer, who was Black, resigned here, overlooking the fact that he still had a fighting chance by playing 10 ... Nd5, intercepting the Bishop and disclosing on the Queen. In this case, Capablanca either would have had to play Qxd5+ and return the piece or exchange his Queen for three pieces> So they found it in 1908!
This miniature is now around with different names. |
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Nov-25-17
 | | MissScarlett: < In this case, Capablanca either would have had to play Qxd5+ and return the piece or exchange his Queen for three pieces," - <American Chess Bulletin>, June 1908, pg. 117.> I was about to write that this is incorrect, when I thought I'd better check the original source. Turns out <TheFocus> and not the <ACB> was in the wrong - they have <QxQPch>, i.e., Qxd7+, not Qxd5+. |
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| Sep-10-18 | | romancitog: Black certainly need not resign in this position. I don't see how black didn't notice Nd5 as this move should have been relatively easy to find and would make the position more or less equal. |
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| Nov-11-20 | | MordimerChess: Little facts about the game.
First of all, Capablanca wasn't even sure about his future chess career. He canceled his studies at Columbia University the same year, the first step to becoming a professional chess player. Another, it was a rapid time control tournament. Players had 20 seconds for the move. So Meyer could overlook the position easily - time pressure and final game. Full video analysis:
https://youtu.be/aquApviC61c
Enjoy! |
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