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Biegler vs Peperle
"Budapest Bloodbath" (game of the day Nov-19-2022)
corr (1952) (correspondence)
Indian Game: Budapest Defense (A51)  ·  0-1



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Nov-03-04  panigma: <nfazli> 9...Qg6 is not mate
Nov-03-04  Deadly Pawn: What would happen after 5Ke1?
Nov-03-04  Whitehat1963: I haven't been able to see the puzzles at all this week, and it's only going to get worse!
Nov-03-04  patzer2: With strong opening and middlegame play, White appears to get a space advantage and a small initiative in the Budapest Gambit as in White's nice win in Yermolinsky vs Khmelnitsky, 2002. Perhaps that is why it is not so popular at Master level.
Nov-03-04  Saruman: This puzzle can also be seen in Winning Chess Tactics...(again)!
Nov-03-04  azaris: As to the old cliché "gambits are best refuted by accepting them", of course there are situations where you absolutely should refuse a gambit. Note that this was a correspondence game, so both sides were able to calculate the variations very far - yet this does little good if one is not familiar with the gambit theory (as the player offering the gambit usually is). "Free pawns" in the opening rarely turn out to be quite so free, especially when your opponent knows what he is doing and makes you work to consolidate the material advantage.
Nov-03-04  kevin86: If white were a boxer,he's be knocked out in the weigh-in!
Nov-03-04  Knight13: Very clever.
Nov-03-04  enigmaticcam: I've noticed that, playing as white, I have a much easier time pushing for an advantage when black plays the Queen's Gambit Accepted verses the Declined.
Nov-03-04  caseyclyde: I saw this trap years ago and, as crazy as it may sound, I have since won three games with this exact sequence of moves. After being congratulated on my genius, I confessed to it being a book trap.
Nov-03-04  DanielBryant: I'm surprised this occurred in a correspondence game.
Nov-03-04  Calculoso: <nfalzi> 9. ... Qg6+ is not mate due to Kxe5, at which point the king may escape.
Nov-05-04  Knight13: What happens if 3. dxe5? Doesn't that end the trap? I just don't get why he played e5. It's very uncommon.
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  Chessical: <Knight13> One standard line is:

3.dxe5 Ng4 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4+ 6.Nbd2 Qe7 7.e3 Ngxe5

May-01-05  halcyonteam: good sight by black.He/she foreseen a bunch of moves leading to mate
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  nasmichael: "Book traps" become so only after someone does it first. Correspondence or not.

Had it occurred in a blitz game, and no one recorded it, it would not have existed to be studied and added to our chess "book knowledge" at the time.

SO thank you, Biegler and Peperle, for your effort and to your addition to chess knowledge.

Nov-26-05  Chopin: Simply beautiful!
Jun-29-06  Poisonpawns: How to lose fast in the Budapest Defense: Ouch! 4..Bf2!
Dec-25-15  pumping707: I love Budapest gambits
Nov-19-22  Cheapo by the Dozen: I used to play the Budapest as Black.

It wasn't really that good. I switched eventually to the Nimzo.

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: "You and I remember Budapest very differently." From the first Avengers movie.

The Budapest Defense--another one of those wildly speculative Black variations that I wish were sound. It does have one advantage--White must enter the maelstrom or get crushed. After 3.d5?,Bc5, Black already has a large advantage.

Nov-19-22  goodevans: Basically just an opening trap which you'd think was familiar to all proponents of the Budapest Gambit. Here are two other games where White gets soundly spanked after erring with 4.h3??:

G Raletich vs Mosher, 1958

NN vs Howard Stern, 2008

In Robert Colquhoun vs Anthony Holloway, 1996 Doeberl Cup, White got away with a draw after 7...Nxg3?? 8.Qe1. In fact that gave White a totally winning position which he somehow managed to fritter away.

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  offramp: A superb <GoodAnarchist> mate (queen and pawn).
Nov-19-22  Chesschronicle22: While you guys are talking about anilysis (and thing like that), I'm still scratching my head and wondering to myself, 'is this really a game??'
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  offramp: Drooper, Fleegle, Bingo, Snorky, Biegler vs Peperle, 1952.
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