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Oct-27-05 | | DoctorChess: Beautiful. |
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Jan-25-06 | | makaveli52: i dont see an obvious win after 10...hxg, am i missing something or is there a more complicated win after 11.h4 or 11.Bxg5? |
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Jan-25-06 | | Jarlaxle: haha tough break for Aprea |
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Jan-25-06 | | Capa15: Bxg5 wins the Queen for 2 pieces |
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Jan-25-06 | | notsodeepthought: I confess I still don't see it - 10 ... h:g5 11 Bg5 d5, and black would seem to be ok (12 B:d8 f:g6; 12 e:d6 Q:d6). So what's white's best continuation (which I must be missing - after all, D'Amore is a 2400+ player, not a total patzer)? |
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Jan-25-06
 | | al wazir: <makaveli52>, <Capa15>: If 10...hxg5 then 11. Bxg5. But now it gets complicated: 11...d5, and if 12. Bxd8 then 12...fxg6 13. Bxd5+ Kh7. If 12. exd6 then 12...Qxd6. I wouldn't have resigned. |
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Jan-25-06
 | | al wazir: And if 12. Bd3 then 12...f5. Now if 13. exf6 then 13...Nxf6 14. Bxf6 Rxf6 15. Qh7+ Kf8 16. Qh8+ Ke7 17. Qxg7+ Kd6 or Rf7. |
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Jan-25-06 | | misguidedaggression: Now, after 10.Nxf7, the position looks resignable. |
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Jan-25-06 | | KholdStare: If 10...hxg5 11.Bxg5 Ne7
How is this bad for Black? |
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Jan-25-06 | | misguidedaggression: I put the position into my computer, it recommended 10.Nxf7. After the blunder 10.Qg6? Black is winning by (-2.53)! |
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Jan-25-06 | | BillyDjango: I don't see why white would have gone with Qg6 instead of Nxf7 unless there is a very fancy and obnoxious mate. It might just be that since all of blacks pieces get bottled up, white has a slow but forced mate with h4 and Qh5 and maybe Bd3, but I don't exactly see it. |
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Jan-25-06 | | BillyDjango: Maybe... after 11. h4 Ne7 or 11...hxg 12. Bg5 Ne7 Than 13. Qh5 g6 14. Qh6 Ng7 15. Rxh4 followed by mate. or 14... Nf5 15. Qxg6+ N8g7 16. Bf6 followed by mate. I'm not sure if all the variations are fool proof because I am just doing it in my head but it looks all right. |
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Jan-25-06 | | mravikiran: I think Asprea got Psyched out by the position. I dont see any definite win immediately - the only thing that may have prompted resignation is poor position and possible loss of material (good enough to resign), but it was worth to try next 4 or 5 moves. |
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Jan-25-06 | | misguidedaggression: After 11.h4 d5! lets black loose. For example:
12.exd6ep Qxd6
12.Qh5 g4
12.Bxd5 Qxd5 13.Qh5 Qe4+ 14.Be3 Qg6
...d5 is <the> freeing move in the Giocco/Evans/2Knights! Always watch for it when calculating variations. <Even if it seems to lose material!> |
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Jan-25-06 | | misguidedaggression: This is busted! White loses! Don't resign too early kids! |
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Jan-25-06 | | ice lemon tea: is there any genius out there who can explain to me how 10.Qg6 makes white win? i'm pretty sure that 10.Nxf7 will put white in a better position. |
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Jan-25-06 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: I join to the great majority group here, which is highly doubtful about the soundness of black's resigning. Can anyone give the line of white's win + result of computer's search? |
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Jan-25-06
 | | tpstar: This is the same piece configuration as a game posted by <mymt> on 1/23/06 in The Kibitzer's Cafe. The correct winning line starts after 9 ... h6 = 10. Bxf7+ Kh8 11. Qg6! wins = 11 ... hxg5 12. Qh5#; 11 ... Rxf7 12. Qh7#. Technically Black can survive one more move with 11 ... Nf6 12. exf6, or else a spite check (11 ... Ba5+). I suspect a missing move pair here = 10. Bxf7+ Kh8 11. Qg6 1-0. Otherwise Black resigned after an unsound combination. Wouldn't be the first time. =) Kids, don't play 6 ... Bb6?! or else you'll get steamrolled to death. 6 ... Bb4+ is correct. |
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Jan-25-06 | | dakgootje: <Kids, don't play 6 ... Bb6?! or else you'll get steamrolled to death. 6 ... Bb4+ is correct.> Yes indeed I have an exempleof a pawn roller with this opening, give me a sec to find it... Post scriptum: Could this be the shortest Game of the Day? pps: Ow and dont ask for an explenation why white is better or the you think 10. ♘xf7 is better, because if you just look in the post above you, you can see it has been posted several times before -.- |
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Jan-25-06 | | dakgootje: Though in the Database there isnt a game before 1940 of Isaac Boleslavsky it has been noted here as 1933 so ill just use 1933: Boleslavsky - Scitov
Moscow, 1933, Giuoco Piano (C54) 1-0
1. e4 e5 2. ♘f3 ♘c6 3. ♗c4 ♗c5 4. c3 ♘f6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 ♗b6?  click for larger view
<correct was 6. ...♗b4> 7. e5! ♘g4 8. h3! ♘h6 9. d5! ♘e7 10. d6! ♘g6 11. ♗g5 f6  click for larger view12. exf6 gxf6 13. ♕e2 ♔f8 14. ♗xh6#
Of course 13. ...♔f8 wasnt black best move, but black was lost in every variation. |
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Jan-25-06 | | sfm: Did Black resign in a won position?
Or are moves 10.Bxf7+,Kh8 missing as suggested?
I believe in the second theory! |
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Jan-25-06
 | | kevin86: What looked like an easy,cute little minature----suddenly has major holes in it. Black seems rather snug after 10...hxg5 11 ♗xg5 ♘e7 or did I miss something? |
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Jan-25-06 | | chessic eric: just to clear it up, it seems after 9...h6 the game must have continued:
10.Bxf7+,Kh8
11.Qg6!
and that the database game is missing the actual 10th moves of white and black. Otherwise resigning a won game is inexplicable for a player of black's strength. |
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Jan-25-06 | | misguidedaggression: <tpstar> slightly more accurate (according to CM7000) is 10.Nxf7. In both lines black can give up the queen to prevent mate. The mate here is 10.Nxf7 Qe7? 11.Nxh6++ Kh7 12.Nf7+ Kg8 13.Qh8# |
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Jan-25-06 | | alefromitaly: "Viva l'Italia" anyway!! |
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