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|Jun-15-08|| ||jrlepage: ravel5184,
I think this sort of games should remain in the database, on the basis that it serves the purpose of teaching amateur players - which there are plenty on this site, mind you - such opening traps as this one, and helps said amateurs avoid falling into them.
|Aug-14-08|| ||just a kid: You'd think NN would fall into this trap.|
|Sep-12-08|| ||Manoloo: If Anand did learn from this, maybe the rest can lear something too.|
A Zapata vs Anand, 1988
|Nov-22-08|| ||thebribri8: How did Fossan fall for this?!|
|Nov-28-08|| ||MoonlitKnight: I'm not sure if this game is real, if the names should have been reversed or if the year is wrong. Fossan is an IM and came second in the Norwegian championship in 1996.|
|Jan-21-09|| ||MaczynskiPratten: Come on Chessgames, this must be wrong - as <MoonlitKnight> says. Venue, description etc all look bogus. Is this someone playing a nasty trick on Fossan's reputation? If it's genuine, let's have some evidence .. but I doubt it. At best it is names reversed. I learnt this trap when I was a kid and caught many players with it between ages 8 and 10 - no way would any experienced IM-level player not know it.|
|Mar-17-09|| ||WhiteRook48: outrageous!|
|Jun-09-10|| ||hankm: He lost to one of the oldest opening tricks in the book! Rule number one on playing the Russian/Petrov defense: if you don't know this trap, you shouldn't play the defense.|
|Aug-24-10|| ||asiduodiego: Auch. I remember when I was 12 years old and I analyzed lines such as this. 3. ..., Nxe4?, leads to trouble. Of course. 3. ..., Qe7. And game continues...|
|Nov-03-10|| ||Igor Egin: If Fossan is master, I am a kamikaze!
So why Erik Fossan was trapped double (3rd and 4th moves)? Who knows? Maybe he studied theory badly?
|Nov-03-10|| ||chesschampion11: 3...Nxe4?|
|Dec-30-10|| ||kevins55555: Petroff Trap. So stupid of White to fall into the Petroff Trap.|
|Dec-30-10|| ||kevins55555: <WhiteRook48> I suppose you are half right. Go to the Kibitzer's Cafe and eat. =P|
|Apr-04-11|| ||rich187113: why didn't black play Qe7 instead of Nf6|
|Nov-16-11|| ||Dr Esenville: 3... Nxe4?
Alternative: 3... d6!
|Nov-16-11|| ||FSR: <Dr Esenville> 4...Nf6?? is the real howler. 4...Qe7! 5.Qxe4 d6 is the main line of this variation, and is actually not so simple. A friend of mine (about 1800 Elo) is very fond of this line for Black.|
|Jun-18-12|| ||Abdel Irada: <FSR>: The line you describe has been extensively analysed, and appears to leave White a pawn ahead and with a winning ending in its soundest variations. If Black tries to avoid this, his ambition is punished forthright.|
After 1. e4, e5; 2. ♘f3, ♘f6; 3. ♘xe5, ♘xe4?; 5. ♕e2, ♕e7; 6. ♕xe4, d6; 7. d4, f6; 8. f4, ♘d7; 9. ♘c3!, White's queen is defended and he threatens to save his knight, and if black captures on e5, the continuation is: 9. ...fxe5; 10. ♘d5!, ♕d8; 11. fxe5, dxe5; 12. dxe5 with White a clear pawn to the good.
Black's attempt to reinstate the attack on the e-pawn is too slow: 12. ...c6; 13. ♘c3, ♕e7?!; 14. ♗f4 . Similarly, Black can't hope to castle and use the prospective e-file pin to regain the pawn because 12. ...♗c5 is well met by 13. ♗d3 when Black can't castle because of the threat on h7.
|Nov-08-14|| ||kevin86: The Bishop cannot immediately retreat in the Petrov! Here is the penalty!|
|Nov-08-14|| ||kevin86: I stand corrected, this is the quickest win by NN|
|Apr-08-15|| ||Brit: I think black would still win, queen capture or not.|
|Jan-31-16|| ||dernier loup de T: Are you a human being, DarthStapler? you make me afraid; or, other question: are the inhabitants of your planet never lying?....|
|Jun-22-17|| ||r2d2bb8: I checked who Erik Fossan is and apparently, he is an International Master. This means that this game is probably a fraud. IMs just don't fall for these stuff.|
|Apr-04-18|| ||ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Well There,
This game should stay as a Teaching tool at least! We Literally had a similar game at our ACME Club Meeting!
It went as follows 1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Nxe5,Nxe4 4.Nxf7,Qe7 5.Nxh8,Nc3+ White then Resigned rather than play SHORT Material! Does anyone know where I can SEE ACTUAL GAMES using these First Five Moves? Thanks!! ACME KING KRUSHER
|Apr-05-18|| ||alexmagnus: Anand's six-move loss to Zapata was not much better, and Anand was already a GM by that time. No fraud (in Anand case just a bad reading of Informator... Where a prearranged draw had the blunder - also between GMs!)|
|Apr-29-18|| ||Korora: Even the Immortal Patzer knows how to spring a few traps.|
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