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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Unknown (1620), unknown
King's Gambit: Accepted. Becker Defense (C34)  ·  1-0

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Mar-06-03  Cyphelium: 5.- Bg7 looks playable.
Mar-06-03  drukenknight: Right, sacking the KN is one way to go. There are also lines that involve sacking the QB, which produces much the same thing.

Then there is that "wrap around" thingie with the two diagonal attackers (Q/B) sort of wrapping around each other. Have you seen that one Cyph? The white q gets to h5 and it looks like the K will come out and be safe but then Bxg5 or Bg5 will spear K/Q.

THat one is always fun if you study the board carefully sometimes you can pull it off.

...Bg7 does look okay. I've seen that quite a few times. There is the danger of Ne5...

Jun-05-03  Elrathia Kingi: What happens if 6...hxg5 instead of fxg5?
Jun-05-03  sleepkid: oh, you know, boring stuff. . . black wins. . . but this is so much more exciting. hahah.
Dec-29-03  shark62: 6... hxg5 7 bxg8 ..rxg8 8 qh5+..ke7
9hxg5 and black is busted
Sep-13-04  Knight13: Taking the knight is a blunder. 6... h5 would be better.
Dec-29-04
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  chessdr: <shark62> Your line is unclear, black's position is a mess but he is up a piece for a pawn. Both sides are undeveloped, and white has no immediate mate or other crush. 9. ... Rxg5 looks playable to me.

In any event I think 6. hxg5 is better than the game continuation. E.g. 6. ... fxg5 (or f5) 7. Ne5 with unstoppable threats.

If 6. ... h5 7. g6 with the better position.

After 6. ... h5 white can also speculate with 7. Ne5!?, e.g. 7. ... fxe5 8. Rxh5 Nh6 (8. ... Rxh5 9. Qxh5+ leads to mate) 9. gxh6 d6 10. d4 and I prefer white's attack; or 7. ... Qe2 8. Bf7+ Kd8 9. Ng6 and white ends up the exchange after 9. ... Qxf7 10. Nxh8 and 11. Qxh5, or up a piece after 9. ... Qxe4+ 10. Qe2 Qxe2+ 11. Kxe2 Rh7 12. Bxg8 Rg7 13. Nxf8 Rxg8 14. Nh7.

Jan-05-05  Whitehat1963: Just once I want to do this (or something similar) to my opponent! And I wish Greco had played Morphy about 1,000 times. Chess might look very different than it does today.
Jan-17-05  Jaymthegenius: I am rated close to 2250 on Chess21.com and not even I have seen Nxg5! I would play d4 in place of.
Jan-20-05  InspiredByMorphy: <Jayme> You undermine the strength of 6.Nxg5 . 6.d4 would have been weak and passive. I assume your looking at 6. ...hxg5. As shark62 pointed out above 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.Qh5+ Ke7 9.hxg5 and black s king is hopelessly exposed. 6.Nxg5 simply wins.
Jan-28-05  Jaymthegenius: I never said that it was a bad move, only that if I were in this situation before studying this game that I would play 6.d4
Feb-09-05  InspiredByMorphy: Above I said 6.Nxg5 simply wins. It gives white an advantage but it is not simple to win after further review of 6. ...hxg5 7.Bxg8 Rxg8 8.Qh5+ Ke7 9.hxg5 Rxg5 and black stays in the game a piece up but with an exposed king. The move which wins is 6.Ne5!
Mar-02-05
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  chessdr: <InspiredByMorphy>, I agree, 6. Ne5! is a pretty quick win, better than 6. Nxg5 or 6. hxg5.
Mar-02-05  InspiredByMorphy: <chessdr> Its too bad black didnt play the main line 5. ...Bg7 . It would have been interesting to see Greco's response.
Jul-01-05
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  Richard Taylor: Yes 6 Ng5 isn't clear whereas Ne5 is a clear win even -

In the line with fxg5 -not so clear...probably strong for White but Black is a piece up etc

Aug-11-05  SEMENELIN: AT 6. Nxg5 fxg5 THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 6.Nxg5 hxg5
Oct-20-05  DeepBlade: Waaaay to many pawn moves by Black, I guess thats the reason he lost.
Feb-03-06  Z.Ramsay: MY GOD!! NO WONDER this guy has the highest rate of winning sacrifices in the database!
Jan-24-07  LaSmitedCrab: heh.
hehehehe
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Okay, Im done. What a fun game. In teh beast collection. :)

Sep-19-07  wolfmaster: <DeepBlade> The only two pieces that NN moved were his king and his pawns. Talk about neglecting development...
Feb-03-08  JMJ565X: hey jaym i play at yahoo.com n i want a match
Oct-08-08  just a kid: How not to play the King's gambit.
Jun-22-11  Llawdogg: That was quick!
Jul-12-11  squaresquat: Pawn chains should be a source of strength;e6-d5;c6-d5.Close,tight,compact;connect- ed with a positional scheme.Black's chain is floating;powerless to keep it's easy gain. White's sensible, conservative,play set's him up to demolish the chains of liberalism.
Oct-03-15  The Kings Domain: Delightful little charmer. :-)
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