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Garry Kasparov vs Vladimir Kramnik
Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000), London ENG, rd 13, Oct-29
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jun-21-04  acirce: Why this early draw with White in one of the last games and Kasparov just had to win? Had he already given up? I also read that he thought for over half an hour before 11.Ne4.
Aug-05-04  ArturoRivera: Got a question, in the berlin defense, it is not a little better to use 4.-...Be7 ?; or the purpose of capturing the knight and therefore loosing castle is to head for the endgame and there crash white?
Aug-06-04  alexandrovm: I think here Kasparov was already beaten (psicologicaly), he was just down :-(
Aug-06-04  acirce: <alexandrovm> On the other hand he fought well and long as Black in the next game and seems to have had fine winning chances, Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000
Aug-06-04  alexandrovm: The "discution" between Kasparov and Kramnik over the berlin defense (hence one of Kasparov's favorite openings as white is the Ruy Lopez) was won temporally by Kramnik here. Psicologicaly Kasparov was beaten here, as he could not break the "berlin wall" in their 2000 WCC. Some time later Kasparov, in another event, could eventually win as white against Kramnik with this defense.
Aug-06-04  acirce: Yes, quite soon afterwards, in fact: Kasparov vs Kramnik, 2001
Aug-06-04
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  Zenchess: Kasparov was mentally beat at this point. In game 11, he blamed the organizers for scheduling back-to-back games leaving him exhausted; however, to me that was just an excuse. I don't get why he didn't try the Scotch, Evans, or King's Gambit here. He claimed the King's Gambit "wasn't sophisticated enough" for match play, whatever the heck that means.
Aug-06-04  acirce: Using the King's Gambit in a WC match against Kramnik, LOL. Why do you think that would have been harder to equalize against?
Aug-06-04
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  Zenchess: It would have been harder to equalize against because of the element of surprise. Kramnik has never faced the King's Gambit in his life. Kasparov had to try something; he was going to lose anyway trying to bang his head against the Berlin Wall.
Aug-06-04  acirce: Kramnik has NEVER faced the King's Gambit? You have his word on that? He surely knows the theory in any case. Kasparov could have used the Scotch I guess or he could have used something else than 1.e4 of course. But the King's Gambit.. noooo.
Aug-06-04  alexandrovm: Thanks acirce for the comments on this game.
I think Kasparov didn't try something else because the main discution was the Berlin defense. Kasparov doesn't like to be challenged in something he thinks he is right. And Kramnik challenged that, deffending the black pieces in the Berlin defense. It's a chess discution, just like the D44 opening (some of us call it the Queen's Gambit Accepted, Botvinnik system), where Kasparov defended white's position.
Aug-06-04
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  Zenchess: According to the database, nobody has ever tried a King's Gambit against Kramnik. Kasparov has beaten Anand with the Evans and he had nothing to lose at this point. I guess he was a victim of his own stubborness here.
Aug-06-04  acirce: He never really tried in this game either, that was the problem I presume, it could have been any opening. As he proved pretty soon after the match it's not impossible to beat the Berlin.
Aug-06-04  ArturoRivera: Think i agree with withgg acirce in this point <He never really tried in this game either, that was the problem I presume, it could have been any opening>, but maybe playing anything else but 1.-e4 could have changed the things a little bit, king's gambit could have been a good surprise, and no matter how psicologycaly prepared Kramnik was i am shure that he would have faced troubles (remember than Fischer lost on king's gambit against Spassky, and i think d4 for Kasparov could have changed the things beacause after not succeding against the Berlin defense his enemy was not just Kramnik but his own fear!
Aug-06-04  CrackerSmack: Kasparov said once "when i play a computer I never play like I would a human" why didn't he simply change his style from the beaten to death Berlin? Slightly less "classical" and far from the madding crowd.
Aug-06-04
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  Zenchess: So maybe GK should have switched to d4 on game 3 and then if he still didn't catch up with Kramnik by then, switch to Scotch on game 11 and KG for games 13 and 15. For games 13 and 15, GK could have studied the games of Spassky. Spassky knew how to beat world-class opponents with the King's Gambit; he also beat Karpov and Seirawan:

Spassky vs Seirawan, 1985
Spassky vs Karpov, 1982

Aug-07-04  ArturoRivera: probably that would have been a wise choice Zenchess!
Aug-07-04  alexandrovm: sure a wise choice, but not his style. He was psicologicaly manipulated.
Aug-07-04
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  Zenchess: Nobody tried to play mind games on Kasparov like they did with Korchnoi in 1977/80. Kasparov was mentally beat after around the 10th game.

The King's Gambit was well within Kasparov's style (sharp & tactical) and has not been very topical for a long time. That's why I think it would have been a perfect choice. And he wouldn't have had to change his style to play it.

Aug-07-04  alexandrovm: I agree with you Zenchess, Kasparov was mentally beat after around the 10th game.
Aug-07-04  acirce: But, again, then why did he fight so hard in the game after this? That would be the mystery.
Aug-08-04  alexandrovm: I think because of his spirit. Kasparov has this type of "spiritual guy" who believes sometimes in faith and bad luck. And some times on his will to fight until the end. He is a genius excentric man.
Aug-09-04  CrackerSmack: theres a forced win for black here.........
Aug-09-04  ArturoRivera: do you really think that <CrackerSmack>??, probe it!!
Aug-10-04
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  Zenchess: I think Kasparov was mentally beat to the point where he tried hard in some games but not in others. And in the ones he tried hard in, he couldn't gain/increase his advantage.
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