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Laurent Fressinet vs Vladimir Kramnik
Grand Prix du Senat (2002) (rapid), Paris, rd 2, Jun-30
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Nyholm Attack (C65)  ·  0-1



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Sep-12-06  slomarko: i still dont like 13.Ne2. What about 13.Be5 de5 14.Nc6? seems equal to me.
Sep-12-06  tino72: But after 14...Bxc6 15 dc Bd6 doesn't black have an advantage due to:

- Better pawn structure (c6 pawn looks v. weak in the endgame) - e5 pawn giving more central control
- Dynamic potential of bishop pointing towards kingside - e.g. with a future f5 giving support to a future pawn push e4?

Sep-12-06  slomarko: well after 16.Nc3 white seems fine.
if 16...f5 then 17.Qd5+ Kh8 18.a4 is okay for white.

Jan-08-08  parmetd: yes you are correct tino72 in the line you posted white may as well resign he is effectively down pawn and hand gifted the game to black with full iniative. slomarko must have missed the bishop superiority to the slow (AND UNdeveloped!) knight since there are pawn islands on both side (not to mention the board is open and the knight will never get an outpost!).

Ne2 appears to be the only move.

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