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Robert James Fischer vs George C Dibert
Simul, 71b (1964) (exhibition), Chicago, IL USA, Mar-22
French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation (C19)  ·  0-1



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Apr-29-06  jackmandoo: When Bobby makes his comeback he should play this guy again.
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  offramp: Fischer really did have problems with the Winawer, didn't he?
Apr-30-06  TaxiDriver: jackassmandoo You patzers always find a bogus simul game where the guy had 60 boards playing all ratings to ridicule a genuis player. Your hero Garry (kasparov) Weinstein plays 2000 and under limit 25 boards! Recently you could play the millionaire for a donation to his dam foundation, the lousy criminal like Bobby calls him. Good day Kind Sirs Mr Hyde
Apr-30-06  midknightblue: <taxidriver> good friend, may i remind you that posting guideline #3 specifically makes reference to personal attacks, and could be applied to your comment "jackassmandoo you patzers..." Certainly jackmandoo is someone you hold in high regard, and this was meant as good natured fun, but others could perceive it as a personal attack. Please keep this in mind and happy posting. Kindest regard
Apr-30-06  zev22407: G Dibert enters the house of Glory!!
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  offramp: Why did <TaxiDriver> refer to Garry Kasparov by the name of <Garry (kasparov) Weinstein>?
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  WannaBe: <offramp>

He was born Weinstein.

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  offramp: <WannaBe: <offramp> He was born Weinstein.> I think we all know that!
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  technical draw: Darn, I thought this was a game by Dilbert.
Nov-14-06  RookFile: Lol... or was it Dogbert....
Nov-14-06  RookFile: <offramp: Fischer really did have problems with the Winawer, didn't he?>

I guess the simple answer is: yes. In 1964 he did. Not in 1970, as Bent Larsen found out.

Dec-29-06  shalgo: Fischer had problems against Kovacevic in a well-known Winawer game in 1970:

Fischer vs V Kovacevic, 1970

Nov-30-14  TheFocus: From a simul in Chicago, Illinois on March 22, 1964.

Fischer scored +56=11-4.

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  sachistu: Question...<The Focus> <sneaky pete> <Benzol> do you have the Donaldson book (A Legend on the Road) and is this game included?

I ask since I have seen this game wrongly(?) attributed to Charles (Chuck) Diebert.

I also saw the posts to the Fischer-Sax game from some time back where this game was presented albeit with the apparently incorrect move 33...Rb8.

The version given here (33...Rb1) also seems a little suspect as it seems Fischer had 38.Qc5 (a move of no use in the version with 33...Rb8). Of course, Black was aiming for ...Be4, but after the better 37...Bg4(!), White is left with no chance.

Note: in the 33... Rb8 version, White could have played 35.Nxd7 whereas in the version given here, White could not play that without allowing mate. Also, in that version, White also had 37.Bxh3 (a move White does not have in the version given here).

Mainly, I'm just trying to confirm Black's name and hopefully find out which version is considered correct. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Oct-30-15  TheFocus: Yes, this is game #42, page 73-74.

The oponent's name is given as George C. Dibert, a "local advertising executive."

The move given is 33...Rb1.

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  sachistu: Thanks! <TheFocus> Will have to pick up a copy of the Donaldson book(s). Am assuming the 2nd edition is the one you have. I also do not currently have the other book (The Unknown Bobby Fischer).

Regarding the score, I realize this was a simul and Fischer may not have stopped at the board long enough to consider Qc5.

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  Phony Benoni: <sachistu: Regarding the score, I realize this was a simul and Fischer may not have stopped at the board long enough to consider Qc5.>

This refers to a possibility stemming from the position after <36...e5>

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In the score, <37.dxe5 Bf5> could be answered well by 38.Qc5. In addition, as <sachistu> also pointed out, 37.dxe5 Bg4 is immediately crushing for Black.

The whole thing seems a bit fishy, and got me wondering if perhaps we have a translation error abd <37.fxe5> was actually played:

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Of course, this rules out the 38.Qc5 defense. Also, it would explain why 37...Bg4 was not played; with the f-file open, White could answer that move with 38.Ne1 or even 38.Nh4!?

There is a problem, however. After 37.fxe5 Bf5 38.e6 remains a horrible blunder by Fischer; instead, 38.Qf4 would give him chances to survive.

Of course this is all speculation, and since Fischer blunders horribly in either line it hardly matters. He seems to have lost the thread of the game for some time.

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