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Sam Loyd vs Samuel Rosenthal
"Three Mover" (game of the day Jan-02-2008)
Paris (1867), Paris FRA, Jun-10
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Normal (C50)  ·  1-0



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Jan-02-08  deadlysin: this was a confusing combination
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  Eggman: The sequence from moves 20-22 is quite an usual way to trade off a couple of pawns each!
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  Richard Taylor: I think Black played bit sloppily. These positions arising from the Giuoco Piano are difficult I think Black should play 12 ...Qe7 and then if 13 g4 h6 14 d4 d5 and for other moves keep aletrto which way White is going to castle -Black doesn't need to castle (in the early stages and esp. if White doesn't)castling may have been a mistake.

But Loyd played a witty game. I have a huge book of his puzzles but I am not good at those "non-game puzzles" - it was given to my father years ago...

Perhaps I should put some up has often occurred to me that designing puzzles, or more likely "studies", e.g such as Triotsky's etc, could be as enjoyable as playing the game. Lasker used to work out some of these studies for practice! They are all o.k. if one doesn't spend too much time on them.

Jan-02-08  sallom89: perfect mate!
Jan-02-08  Samagonka: Crazy game. I wonder how much whisky was involved.
Jan-02-08  uuft: I lost it around 4.d3. Got worse. Need study.
Jan-02-08  meteficha: Isn't this a pure mate as well?
Jan-02-08  drpoundsign: KEWL! Semi-smotherered 2 knight mate.
Jan-02-08  Giearth: According to

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Jan-02-08  realbrob: I think by move 12 Black was better. He had a better pawn structure and he could easily play to simplify and enter a superior endgame.

The idea of castling queenside wasn't brilliant at all, it looks like he spotted the open a file and thought "what a pity that white rook is so useless, let's make it a deadly attacking piece!"

He was scared by 13.g4 which wasn't such a threatening move. If they played for instance 12.. O-O 13.g4 Black has his Q, B+N (and also the rook, maybe) to defend his king.

Afterwards Black played a lot of passive moves and allowed Loyd to be aggressive and build an attack.

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  patzer2: The mate-in-three with 34. Nd7+ is neat. However, the deflection (removing the guard) tactic with the sham Queen sacrifice 33. Qxf3! to set it up is the one I find more instructive.
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  patzer2: Instead of 32...Qg4? Black can hold on a bit longer with hope for a draw after 32...Bg5 33. Ng5 Qe7 34. Qc4 or 34. Kd3 .
Jan-02-08  underdoggum: Sam Rosenthal, some of you might recall, was the central inspiration for David Shenk's "The Immortal Game: A History of Chess," as Rosenthal was something of an immediate relative
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  kevin86: A queen sac,mate in three,and a pretty formation of the knights-could this be a chess version of a royal flush? Yes,I mean poker-and not the king's toilet.
Jan-02-08  Defiler: I think that these days that mates of such type with two knights are pretty well known, I wonder if it was the same back then?
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  Jimfromprovidence: 32... Qg4?? was a huge mistake.

32... Qh2+ works great for black. If 33 Kc3 then 33... Bg4.

Now it looks real strong for black, with a lot of attacking possibilities just ahead.

Jan-02-08  pawnofdoom: Amazing how such a "unquiet" game could rise from the Guicco "pianissimo" opening. I believe pianissimo means something like "very quiet" or at least that's what it means to people who play instruments
Jan-02-08  griga262: <pawnofdoom> I believe you are right, Giuoco Pianissimo means The Quietest Game.
Jan-02-08  schnarre: I loved White's 27. Rxa6!
Jan-03-08  realbrob: <pawnofdoom> <griga262> The most common meaning of the word "pianissimo" in Italian is "very slow", even though it can also mean "very quiet". The Italian superlative isn't the same as the English one, so that "gioco pianissimo" doesn't mean "the quietest game" (which would be something like "il gioco piĆ¹ lento") but "a very quiet game".
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  juan31: Super Jugador el Maestro Loyd
Jan-04-09  WhiteRook48: Loyd really has amazing chess tactics
Feb-02-10  AnalyzeThis: Nice move, 33. QxB!
Aug-16-10  Lil Swine: rosenthals worst knightmare
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Black's defense was typical of the era, i.e., weak, but Loyd's tactics are amazing.
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