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Simon Winawer vs Cecil De Vere
"The Pleasures of Plagiarism" (game of the day Aug-03-2022)
Baden-Baden (1870), Baden-Baden GER, rd 2, Jul-19
French Defense: Winawer Variation (C15)  ·  0-1



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Aug-17-04  Kaspy2: Winawer has the first go on his opening
Aug-17-04  checkpat: Yes ... as black!
What s the first game where he plays it as Black?
Aug-17-04  Kaspy2: click on c15
Aug-18-04  checkpat: I did ; No C15 with Winawer as
Should Winawer be called
de Vere
or is the seminal game missing
of our favorite database?
Aug-18-04  sneaky pete: <checkpat> Some games with 3... Bb4 4.exd5 exd5 are listed as C01. Steinitz vs Winawer, 1867 is the first recorded instance where Winawer plays this defence. Very unlikely that he invented it, his first recorded games are from the Paris 1867 tournament and 3... Bb4 had been played 6 years before by Kolisch. See Paulsen vs Kolisch, 1861 (21th match game) and Paulsen vs Kolisch, 1861 (27th matchgame) played in November, 1861. There is also a game Paulsen vs Blackburne, November 25, 1861, filed under C15 (white played 4.Bd3 ..)(I forgot to make note of the gid). A game Paulsen vs De Vere, December 1861, won by Paulsen, from a blind simul, is missing in the database.
Apr-06-06  DeepBlade: Oh GOD! The irony...
Apr-19-10  ariel el luchador: 14) T1C del blanco es muy mala jugada es mucho mejor 14)A3R y hay que encontrar una buena jugada para el negro aunque calculo que debería ganar el negro,debido a que el rey está bailando descubierto en el centro.
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  GrahamClayton: De Vere's capture of the knight with 12...♕xd4 is a much better move than 12...♕xa1 - by staying in the middle of the board, the Queen is able to construct a mating with the Knight after 16...♘d4, which forces Winawer's resignation.
Jun-27-21  Stolzenberg: White was too hungry, after 13. ... 0-0 he was in trouble, e.g. <ariel el luchador> 14. ♗e3 ♕c4+ 15. ♔e1 ♘c6 16. ♕b7 ♖b8 17. ♕c7 ♕c3+.
Jun-27-21  Stolzenberg: <After 16. ... ♘d4 White resigned>: 17. ♔d2 ♘d5 = 0:1 or 17. ... ♕xc2+ 18. ♔e3 ♕c3+ 19. ♔f4 ♘e2+ 20. ♔g5 ♕e5+ 21. ♔h4 ♕h5#
Aug-03-22  Brenin: After a very promising start, de Vere's life came to an early and sad end.
Aug-03-22  goodevans: <GrahamClayton: De Vere's capture of the knight with 12...♕xd4 is a much better move than 12...♕xa1 - by staying in the middle of the board...>

Also, 12...Qxa1 13.Qc8+ Ke7 14.Ba3# may have influenced his decision to take the N rather than the R.

<Stolzenberg: White was too hungry, after 13. ... 0-0 he was in trouble...>

After 12...Qxd4 White is a piece down with his R en prise, so whilst 13.Qxa8 may look "too hungry" what else is he to do? Okay, 13.Qxa8 loses but at least it loses spectacularly. Anything else just is just tantamount to submission.

Aug-03-22  Cheapo by the Dozen: 10 Bxb7 is the losing move. Just a miscalculation of some kind.
Aug-03-22  Rip2632: Premature attack. Think defense too.
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  PawnSac: <Cheapo by the Dozen: 10 Bxb7 is the losing move.>

Maybe so, but 9.Qf3 sucks too. Correct was...

< 9.0-0! >

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Now black's best is ..Nf6 . He doesn't have time for the foolhardy ..Qxc3? because of 10.Nb5! and now he's in trouble.

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The white Q controls the D file. so 10. ..Qxa1?? blunders the queen to Nc7+ (pushing the K onto a dark square) and Ba3+. Black needs to guard against the Nc7+, but if 10. ..Qa5 white plays 11.Nd6+. If 10. ..Qc5 white guards the N with a4 preparing Ba3 again. It's pretty clear white gets a winning attack.

So going back to the first position after 9.0-0 . Black doesn't have time to chase material, he needs to get the king to safety, so 10. ..Nf6 is necessary. Since black intends to castle kingside, and of course we want to save that lovely bishop, 11.Bd3 is in order.

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ok in this position note again black doesn't have time for ..Qxc3 because of Nb5, but this time it's protected by the bishop, so when the Q retreats the immediate Ba3 keeps black from castling. Black must castle now.

The line we have followed is 9.0-0 Nf6 10.Bd3 0-0 and this looks a whole lot better for both sides, although there are improvements for the earlier moves. For example.. white could have played Qxd4 instead of Nxd4 but we're not going to replay the whole game

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