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Aloyzas Kveinys vs Jonathan Speelman
Bled Olympiad (2002), Bled SLO, rd 2, Oct-27
Caro-Kann Defense: Karpov Variation. Modern Main Line (B17)  ·  1-0

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Apr-20-20  stacase: <Brenin ... I also get the 'hiccup' when using Safari, but not Chrome.>

I use Chrome and this hiccup started yesterday. I was hoping it would be gone today. It's not the end of the world, just annoying (-:

Apr-20-20
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  perfidious: Like yourself, <stacase>, I use Chrome and have had this bit of bother turn up here and there the last day or so.
Apr-20-20  Damenlaeuferbauer: After long ponering my old Lithuanian friend Aloyzas, who played many years in the German Bundesliga for Godesberger Schachklub 1929 (a suburb of the former West German capital Bonn), finally found the winning stroke 28.Rxe6+!,Kxe6 29.Qxc7 and white will grab another black pawn on a7 or c6. May his soul rest in eternal peace!
Apr-20-20  goodevans: The recent changes are an absolute pain.

I worked in IT for decades in many different aspects but never in web design. I may be biased but I've grown to mistrust web designers. Often it's charge for the sake of change (or to keep themselves in a job) and far too few of them seem to understand the concept of rigorous testing. I get so fed up when purely cosmetic changes such as these end up worsening the user experience.

I'm using a Chrome browser on a mobile. I find the new board actually works fine as long as I'm scrolled right to the very top. Down a gnat's whisker and the jitters appear.

I recently contacted CG.com about another bit of web design that was ruining my user experience. I never got a response but a few days later the changes were reversed out. I'll try that again and see if it makes any difference. If enough of us complain then maybe we'll succeed.

Apr-20-20  Elbajacisback: The changes to the chess move symbols are terrible, and kibitzing comments are hard to read as need to keep scrolling to the right. Pls go back to how it was!
Apr-20-20  eblunt: <stacase> same here
Apr-20-20  zb2cr: Looks as though White will end up with a Queen+2P for two Rooks after 28. Rxe6+, Kxe6; 29. Qxc7. Black has a couple of Pawns hanging, so White will get some more compensation, Not a very clear-cut win.
Apr-20-20
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  TheaN: White levels material with a pawn to boot with <28.Rxe6+ Kxe6 29.Qxc7 +-> with either Qxa7 or Qxc6 to follow. Definitely the best move, straightforward win, not so much. However, as always, the puzzle's key is to play the best move, not win outright. That it usually is the result is another point. That said, White is on +4 after the key move, so it should win.
Apr-20-20
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  scormus: <goodevans ... IT issues> my experience too over many years. I don't know that it's something CG did or whether there's been an unfortunate mod to some piece software they use :(

I remarked on this problem yesterday, after I was reduced to trying to solve a Sunday POTD "by eye"

Apr-20-20  Diana Fernanda: ? New InDesign
Apr-20-20  mel gibson: The first move was easy but not the rest.
Stockfish 11 says:

28. Rxe6+

(28. Rxe6+ (♖e1xe6+ ♔d6xe6 ♕g7xc7
♖d8-d7 ♕c7xc6+ ♔e6-e7 ♗d3-c4 ♖d5-d1+ ♔g1-g2 ♗b2-e5 ♕c6-e6+ ♔e7-d8 ♗c4-b5 ♖d7-e7 ♕e6-c6 a7-a6 ♕c6-a8+ ♔d8-c7 ♕a8xa6 f6-f5 ♕a6-a7+ ♔c7-d8 ♕a7-a8+ ♔d8-c7 c2-c4 ♗e5-d4 ♗b5-a4 ♖d1-c1 ♕a8-c6+ ♔c7-b8 ♕c6-d6+ ♖e7-c7 ♕d6xd4 ♖c1xc4 ♕d4-b6+ ♖c7-b7 ♕b6-a5 ♖c4-c1 ♕a5xf5 ♔b8-a7 h2-h4 ♖b7-c7 ♗a4-b3 ♖c7-c5 ♗b3-d5 ♖c5-c2 ♕f5-e4) +8.47/33 223)

score for White +8.47 depth 33

Apr-20-20  Sally Simpson:

Change the viewer to pgn4web everything should then work fine and you get all the keyboard short cuts - clicking b8 gives the current FEN and clicking on c8 the PGN details etc.

The Game. Alway dodgy when you have Kings defending things. By law every check takes priority, therefore the King is the easiest piece to deflect from guard duty.

Someone else mention it and I agree. The puzzle should have been set from here (White to play)


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When the idea first took shape with the double Rook sac on e6. Maybe use it again on a Wednesday.

Apr-20-20  little ernie: An overloaded king. Ironic as royalty never carries it's share of the load.
Apr-20-20
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  lost in space: 28. Rxe6 with advantage white but it will take a while to win this endgame.
Apr-20-20  dumbgai: Easy to spot winning the queen, but converting the resulting position into a win is not so easy.
Apr-20-20
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  benveniste: Kveinys obviously had this in mind at least two moves earlier. Easy to see at move 28, but at move 25 I'm not sure I'd be willing to offer both rooks a pawn for the queen and a pawn.
Apr-20-20  goodevans: <Sally Simpson: Change the viewer to pgn4web everything should then work fine...>

Thanks. I just tried that on my mobile and I get a different issue. The forward and back buttons are tiny and way too close together for easy operation. It's not for me but I'm sure it will be good on some other browsers so people should give it a try.

Apr-20-20  Sally Simpson: Hi Goodevens,

The format has changed since I lasted posted. The font has changed and the layout.

Somebody, somewhere is doing something...

Apr-20-20
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  gawain: It did not take very long to see the right combination to deflect the Black king and win Q for R. When the smoke clears, White has an edge but some work to do.
Apr-20-20
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  Diocletian: Yeah, trouble here too - Heavy black bars nearly a cm thick separating comments. Really hard on the eye. Hope CG gets this fixed. No trouble with ">"
Apr-20-20  20MovesAhead: 25. c4
Apr-20-20  mel gibson: <Apr-20-20
Premium Chessgames Member Diocletian: Yeah, trouble here too - Heavy black bars nearly a cm thick separating comments. Really hard on the eye. Hope CG gets this fixed. No trouble with ">
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Getting the same black bars here and the site is terribly slow to load.

Apr-20-20  stacase: Last night (early AM) no black bars, but now at 3:00 PM they're here. Tuesday's puzzle may have more surprises. Who knows (-:
Apr-20-20  Nullifidian: 28. ♖xe6+ ♔xe6 29. ♕xc7
Apr-20-20
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  scutigera: Sally Simpson is right, jitter-haters; I did the same thing myself and it works just fine. The board and moves are smaller, but that also lets you see both the board and the full score of all but the longest games.
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