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Alexey Shirov vs Evgeny Ilgizovich Bareev
Corus Group A (2003), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 7, Jan-19
French Defense: Steinitz. Boleslavsky Variation (C11)  ·  1-0



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Jan-20-03  refutor: shirov bounced back after his loss v. krasenkov with a little "fire on board" v. bareev
Jun-27-03  StevieW: Looks like bareev hasn't given up this line. See his game almasi later in the year
Nov-04-04  notyetagm: Gee, <just what was Bareev thinking>, leaving his kings in the middle of the board against Shirov, of all people?
Feb-28-06  Larsker: This is game 10 in Neil McDonald's book Chess: The art of logical thinking.

I first went through the game with Fritz and then read McDonald's analysis.

There are some important differences.

McDonald thinks that White played a fine game from start to end.

Fritz believes Black was best until he made a wrong decision on his move – and that it went downhill for him from there.

Concerning Black's move. McDonald writes <22. - , Qc5. The black queen has no choice but to retreat from her ideal square.>

Fritz prefers <22. - , Qxc4>. In fact, it maintains the small advantage that Black, according to Fritz, has built up after the opening (and which McDonald doesn’t see). <22. - , Qc5>, still according to Fritz, loses that advantage and hands it to White which then goes on and increases it until Black succumbs.

Nov-18-06  Kriegspiel: <Larsker> Your comments offer no illumination, since McDonald in his text analyzes -- and rejects -- 22...Qxc4 (see his notes to 22.Nb5!) and, without details of Fritz's counterclaim, it's impossible to evaluate the contrasting evaluations.


Jun-29-07  THE pawn: <Larsker> Are you sure? I checked the position with Rybka 1.0 and it says white is already winning (± 1,50, which is big for Rybka).

I think that the problem is Fritz. It calculates tons of variations, but doesn't take in consideration the relative activity of the pieces. Here, black is already toast because the bishop, the king's rook as well as the knight have yet to find good developing squares. Zero harmony here, and that's why McDonald and Rybka know this is over. Fritz can't calculate that far, because after all, there is still a long process to reach the win.

by the way, Rybka suggests Qc5 and Qb6 before Qxc4.

Apr-20-18  SpiritedReposte: White definitely seems to have compensation for not one but two pawns.

Why not give one back with <19. ...d3> and keep white from castling?

After 20. O-O it's not too inviting to play as black there.

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