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| Jan-20-05 | | samuliviitanen: <kevin86> I think 24.Bb5 is denied by 24...Nb6 protecting the bishop and opening the 8th rank for the rook. Now if 25.Bxc6 bxc6. Black bishop blocs the white rook from attacking d8 and white has no good attacks. |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Ruylopez: Evidently this is a blitz game. How can you tell? |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Stonewaller2: <bpdoc> After 24. ♗c4 ♕h7 25. e6 dooms Black's ♗d7. Not surprisingly, GM Anand's 26. ♕xf5+ is much more direct than my idea of 26. e6?! ♕e4+ 27. ♔f2 ♕xc2+ ♔g3 etc. I think I had a phantom Black ♕f7 there "stopping" ♕xf5. <erikcu> I don't think it makes any difference in the position but it's a good question anyway. I believe the convention for chess problems is that if the ♔ and ♖ are on their original squares it's assumed castling is possible unless specified otherwise. Not sure if that exactly applies to positions from an actual game tho. |
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| Jan-20-05 | | jeremykelly2000: I also saw 26.e6, but I saw that it also won, although you had to deal with all of the 'desparation checks'. Black will run out of checks, and can't stop ♕f7# with out giving her queen for the pawn. Attempts to stop the mate with the Knights also fail, for instance 26...♘d8 27. ♕xd8+ ♔g7 28.♕f6+ followed by 29.♕f7# and 26...♘d6 27.♖xd6 and black has the same problems, but with one less defender. Does anyone see an out for 26. e6? |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Everett: How about
26. e6 blocking black queen retreat threatening mate at f7 next?...N on c6 can't move to cover f7 because of Rd8#
...Rf8 loses to Qg6+ and Rd7#
...Nd6 27.Rxd6 may be the only defense... but too lazy to see it out... |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Stonewaller2: The text's more certain after 27. ... ♔f8 28. ♖f1+ ♔g8 29. ♕e8+ followed by 30. ♖d7+. |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Skylark: I'm tired right now; (ie 2 hours sleep :() but that's no excuse; could someone tell me if 24. Bh5 works just as well? |
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| Jan-20-05 | | The beginner: Skylark Im not a good chess player but i think, if 24 Bh5. black could just capture the bishop with Rxh5. I think the main goal is get the black queen away from being able to defend the d7 square, so white can get his own queen out to dance with the black king. |
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| Jan-20-05 | | who: <skylark> 24...RxB |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Everett: Everett here again... I meant to say 27.e6 after the text 26 Qxf5+, I think black is in terrible trouble then... ...N on c6 can't move to cover f7 because of Rd8#
27...Rf8 loses to 28.Qg6+ and Rd7#
27...Nd6 28.Rxd6 may be the only defense... but too lazy to see it out... |
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| Jan-20-05 | | Skylark: Lolz. I saw the deflection but moved the bishop to the wrong square. I could kill the message, but that would be cowardly. May everyone know what a n00b I am. :( |
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| Jan-20-05 | | aw1988: <Skylark> I have been playing like a n00b for many, many years, and I am still in love with this fine art. Don't let one puzzle discourage you. |
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| Jan-20-05 | | latebishop: After 26.e6, what about just 26...
N(8)e7 blocking the white queen's access to f7 and threatening Rd8? |
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| Jan-21-05 | | Everett: <latebishop> Please see my later post, stating 27 e6 played after 26 Qxf5+. Your defense doesn't stop anything in that case, but I look forward to you finding a solution for black in this case, as I wouldn't doubt there is one. |
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| Jan-21-05 | | Stonewaller2: <Honza Cervenka, patzer2> What about 26. ... ♕f7 27. ♕g4 ♘xe5 28. ♖f1? ♕xf1+! 29. ♔xf1 ♘xg4 - ? 28. ♖d8+ is clearly stronger. After 26. e6 ♘8e7! all I see is 27. ♗xe7+ ♘xe7 28. ♕xb7 without much in the way of compensation. |
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| Jan-21-05 | | Ruylopez: I believe someone referred to this game as a blitz game and I posted a question asking how that could be determined. I'm still interested and would appreciate a response. Thanks. |
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| Jan-23-05 | | Everett: <Stonewaller2> If you are responding to my posts, I suggest 27. e6 AFTER 26 Qxf5+. Both you and <latebishop> can try to analyze the position for black at that point, or you can continue to look at 26 e6, which is not what I'm talking about. |
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| Jan-23-05 | | Ruylopez: Hey guys, sometimes my admittedly basic questions have been answered. I guess my last one will not be. |
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| Jan-23-05 | | azaris: <Ruylopez> You google for the tournament, visit their website at http://www.sis-mh-masters.dk/englis... and find out it's a double round-robin rapid tournament. |
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| Jan-23-05 | | Ruylopez: Thank you, azaris. I'm learning a lot from this website. |
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| Jan-24-05 | | Stonewaller2: No, <Everett>, I wasn't responding to you, but I'm also not wild about 26. ♕xf5 ♕f7 27. e6?? ♕xf5. 27. ♕g4 seems to be the way to go there. When I ran that past CM8K it gave back material with 27. ... ♘d6 and maneuvered its way to a ♖ vs. ♖ + ♙ endgame in which I stumbled through to a draw, but which an abler player probably could have won. |
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| Jan-24-05 | | Everett: <Stonewaller2> thank you for the response, but your 27...Qxf5 makes no sense, as the black Queen cannot capture the white Queen on f5 from c4. After 26 Qxf5+ Ke8 27 e6 I thought 27...Nd6 is blacks best, as stated above in my previous post, but after 28 Rxd6, what does CM8K suggest? I see now the knight on c6 can move because there is no mate on d8 anymore... so... after 28 Rxd6 black needs to stop Qf7#. Here's what I got, not proofed by a computer... 1) 28...Nd8 29 Qg6+ and Rf1 coming
2) 28...Ne5 30 Qxe5 and black is down a piece and two pawns
3) 28...Rf8 29 Qg6+ again with mate next
4) 28...Rh7 29 Qxh7 with the threat at f7 still there. Sure I'm missing something... funny how one can be blind even with the board right in front of 'em. |
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| Jan-25-05 | | Stonewaller2: uh, in the line I gave the Black ♕ is on f7, not c5, after 26. ... ♕f7 to block the check . . . so is perfectly able to play 27. ... ♕xf5 after 27. e6?? |
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| Jan-25-05 | | Everett: <Stonewaller2>, ummm, I'm going from the text after 26 Qxf5+ Ke8, as in the game, but using 27 e6 instead of Qd7+. If you want an answer to 26...Qf7, may I suggest <Honza>'s and <patzer2>'s analysis on page one of this kibitz. |
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| Nov-11-06 | | acirce: Khalifman mentions Black's fascinating possibility 13..d3!! suddenly turning the game highly unclear, possibly even to Black's favour. Therefore 12.f4 is supposed to be better, but if Black begins with 11..dxc3?!, this energetic plan with 12.Qh5+ Ng6 13.Bg5 is correct and can transpose into the game. |
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