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| May-22-10 | | Cushion: <nuwand> I hope that is sarcasm, fritz didn't exist in 1960. |
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Jul-12-10
 | | Phony Benoni: If the line between the fourth and fifth ranks is considered the "Rubesov", White's king crossed it three times. Some gall. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Jim Bartle: Hold on. I thought the idea is, if you cross the Rubesov there's no going back! |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Gilmoy: Of course 37.Qd3 f5+ 38.K(d4,e3) Bc5+ chases off the K. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Lutwidge: I was playing chess in a cafe today, and someone there said he knew someone who could look "37 moves ahead". Guess this was that guy. |
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Jul-12-10
 | | Once: Black wins both of white's rooks with queen-king skewers. I don't recall ever seeing that before. In many ways this is an archetypal sicillian. Black even throws in the mandatory c3 exchange sac. One of the points of the sicillian is that if black can weather white's initial kingside storm he usually stands better. Mind you, I think white was asking too much of the position to play both f4 and g4 so early in the game. A very enjoyable game to play through. Thank you, CG. |
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Jul-12-10
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Is any of this sound??????.......... |
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| Jul-12-10 | | newzild: A remarkable game. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | goodevans: <LIFE Master AJ: Is any of this sound??????..........> Quite possibly not, but it makes for a very exciting game. One move that looks very suspect to me is <28 Rh3>. I think I'd have chosen <28 Qxe4>. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Ychromosome: Rxc3 is one of my favorite moves in this Sicilian. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | CapablancaFan122: Doesn't white have any other moves than <32.Rxh7>? It seems to me that it gives black a strong incentive after Be7+. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Travis Bickle: <Cushion: <nuwand> I hope that is sarcasm, fritz didn't exist in 1960.> And chess was better for it! |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Marmot PFL: <CapablancaFan122:> Black was threatening Ke8 and Qd7 mate, which Rxh7 prevents. Of course its hopeless anyway. One of the best recent GOTD, even is the players did cheat by moving the pieces when analyzing. If white wants to play an all out king side attack it seems better to castle queen side. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | Marmot PFL: My comp seems to think that 21 Rd2 Bh4 22 Rf3 refutes the attack and keeps some material edge, but its not easy for a human to play. So sometimes moves like 21 Kf2 are signs of panic, and the king should stay put and take it like a man. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | goodevans: My earlier comment <... I'd have chosen <28 Qxe4>.> and I'd have lost: 28 Qxe4 Bf6+
29 Kc4 b5+
30 Kc5 Be7+
31 Kc6 Qc8+
32 Kb6 Bc5+
33 Ka5 Qc7+
34 Kxa6 Qb6# |
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| Jul-12-10 | | asiduodiego: Excellent game!. White tries to rush the pawns to the kingside, but leaves his king naked for the counterattack, and finally, is left almost naked in a whirlwind of combinations and skewers. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | anand: can somebody please help me with
15.fxe7. I am blind today. |
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Jul-12-10
 | | kevin86: Boy does the fur fly in this one!! It looks at times like neither player can save the game! |
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Jul-12-10
| | Phony Benoni: <anand: can somebody please help me with
15.fxe7. I am blind today.>
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I am going to risk everything and try this without a computer: 15.fxe7 Rxf3 16.exd8Q Rxf1+ 17.Rxf1 Rxd8, and Black is a pawn ahead. I think. |
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Jul-12-10
| | Phony Benoni: <LIFE Master AJ: Is any of this sound??????..........> Well, 1.e4 looks OK to me.
Seriously, this may not be sound in the Fritz sense, but you can figure that out much better than me. But I would point out that the players are capable of producing good chess. Borisenko, in particular, was a grandmaster of correspondence chess and a strong enough over-the-board player to reach the USSR Championship Final seven times. Rubesov seems to have fewer credentials, but you don't play in the USSR Correspondence Championship without being very good--and this game shows he had a lot on the ball. This doesn't prove the game is sound, of course. But it does indicate that the ideas are well-motivated and have solid thought behind them, instead of being wild shots in the dark. This is a game worth studying deeply. And when such a game is entertaining as well, what more could you ask? |
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Jul-12-10
 | | scormus: A great game, with some unusual and highly entertaining features .... like repeated crossing the 50 yard line (or whatever its called). B looks to be walking a tightrope for much of the game, but he never lets go of the initiative. I like to think 37 Kd5 was a nice way of letting B deliver the KO punch. Sorry guys, I suppose I shouldnt mex my mitaphors |
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Jul-12-10
 | | chrisowen: A Bc4 connect with river course Fischer Sozin is handy tool KO'ed many a sicilian dealing a sacrifice at mouth e6. Blacks 9th move square off bishop picking a rub I kop once jet off 11.g4 sticks a limb out, egads! g2 is now the achilles heel. Seize her moment it march after 20..Qc6 21.Kf2 scatters the deck. Pick up a few squares and white is cooked, alphabet soup lax play. |
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| Jul-12-10 | | SuperPatzer77: 
click for larger viewAfter 36...Qxc2+, White's another try is 37. Qd3 f5+!, 38. Ke3 Bc5+!, 39. Qd4 Qxb3+ (winning the White Queen)  Final position below:
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Jul-12-10
| | LIFE Master AJ: <<Phony Benoni> <This is a game <<worth studying deeply.> And when such a game <is entertaining as well,>> what more could you ask?>> I apologize for my comment, I was NOT trying to demean this game! I just took about 10 minutes to run through it ... and its so wild, and the fur really flies ... all I could do was wonder if anything was sound or correct. Of course it was a fun game. Thanks for the background on both the players, I was aware that Borisenko was quite a good player ... both in OTB and postal chess. |
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| Jun-29-17 | | Delboy: I do not see any discussion of 27. ... Be1+ in the thread. 28. Kc4 (forced) b5+ 29. Kc5 leaves white's king perhaps even more precariously placed. At the very least black can now capture the knight with check and more or less restore the material balance, with more checks to follow. |
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