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Sep-16-07
 | | Pawn and Two: <Calli & Pterodactylus> Fritz found an even stronger continuation for White if 24.Be5! Qg5 had been played. Now White could play 25.Qc3!. Here are a few possible continuations:
(2.90) (19 ply) 25...Bd7 26.Bxd6 Bxb5 27.h4 Qg4 28.e4 Rac8 29.Qe1 e5 30.Bxe5 and White is winning. or 25...Rd7 26.b6 (2.10) (20 ply) 26...Qe7 27 Qb4 f6 28.Bc3; or (2.13) (20 ply) 26...Qd8 27.Qc5 Ra6 28.Rb1 Nf5; or (2.21) (20 ply) 26...Qf5 27.Qc5 Ne4 28.Bxe4 Qxe4 29.Qb5. In each of these variations Black has an extremely difficult position. Additional analysis would be required to determine if a sucessful defense for Black can be found. After the game continuation 24.Ne2? Bd7 25.Nc3, Black can obtain an approximately equal position by playing (.33) (20 ply) 25...Qg5 26.f4 Qe7 27.Rfe1 Rac8 28.Nxa4 Bxb5 29.Qb3 Qc7 30.Qb4 (.15) (16 ply) 30...Ra8 31.Nc5 Bc6 32.e4 b6 33.Nb3 Ra4. Other moves that may be playable for Black after 25.Nc3 include; 25...Rac8, 25...e5 and 25...Qh5. The tournament book noted that 25...Ra5? was a serious error. <Up to here Capablanca has played very well, but now he embarks on a wrong path. He wins the b-pawn, but falls into a deadly pin on the d-file. Black can now consolidate the position, but his position is not yet ready for attacking maneuvers. Correct was 25...Rac8, or possibily even stronger 25...Qg5, bringing the Queen into play.> At his 26th move, instead of (1.48) (19 ply) 26...Qg5 27.Qb4 b6 28.Rd2, a better defense was (.74) (19 ply) 26...Bxb5 27.Qb4 Rda8 28.Rfe1 Bc6 29.Bxc6 bxc6 30.Rxd6 c5 31.Qb6 Nxd6 32.Qxd6. White has winning chances in this ending, however, it would have been very interesting to see if Riumin could have found a win or if Capablanca could have found a way to draw. |
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| Sep-18-07 | | Calli: <Pawn and Two> Yes, 25.Qc3 should win. Just a bad opening for Black. <paladin at large> "Capa was presumably less rusty in Moscow 1935" Hastings was only 9 games. Don't think that made up for 5 years of relative inactivity. IMHO, in 1935 he didn't play well at Hastings, Moscow or even Margate which followed. 5 losses in only 37 games. Compare with the next year, 1936, at Moscow, Nottingham and Margate , 1 loss in 41 games. |
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| Sep-18-07 | | Calli: <Pawn and Two> I eventually found the original picture for New York 1893 with the key:http://picasaweb.google.com/Caissa1... Also, you might find some other photos of interest in the album :=) |
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| Sep-20-07 | | paladin at large: <Calli> The inactivity was from July, 1931 coming off the match win against Euwe until late December 1934 - but, looking at the 1935 results, I concede the point. By contrast, Capa was not only nearly unbeatable in 1936, he beat inter alia Riumin (twice), Ragozin, Lilienthal, Botvinnik, Lasker, Eliskases, Alekhine, Reshevsky. |
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Sep-20-07
| | Pawn and Two: <Calli> Thanks for updated pictures. I note everybody is now identified for the New York 1893 International tournament. However, several games have yet to be added to the chessgames site. All of the games are available on other databases. It is interesting to determine where Capablanca went wrong in this game. Fritz shows that at move 17, Capablanca could obtain an equal game with 17...e5! (.00) (19 ply) 18.cxd5 Ngf6 19.f3 Bxh3 20.Bxh3 Qxh3 21. fxe4 Nxe4. The tournament book stated that 17...Ngf6 was forced. <This retreat is forced. Very tempting is 17...e5, since the variations arising from this are favorable for Black, with the exception of one which decides the game in White's favor. Namely: 18.f3! Nxe3 19.fxe4 Nxf1 (No help either is 19...Bxh3 because of 20.Bxh3 Qxh3 21.Qxe3 Qg2 22.0-0-0!, and likewise also 19...Bg4 in view of 20.Qf2 Nxf1 21.Rxf1 with the treat 22.Qxf7+) 20.Nf2!! Ne3 21.exd5 after which Black has no hope.> However, if 17...e5! (-.36) (19 ply) 18.f3? Nxe3 19.fxe4 Bg4 20.Qf2 d4 21.Bc1 Bxh3 22.Bxh3 Qxh3, if now, 22.Bxe3 dxe3 24.Qf5 Qxf5 25.exf5 Rc8, and it is Black that has the advantage! After 17...Ngf6, White has some advantage. At move 19, best for Black was probably (.52) (18 ply) 19...Re8 20.Rc1. Black could now try 20...Bd7, or 20...dxc4, or 20...Bd7. Instead, after (1.23) (18 ply), 19...dxc4 20.Qxc4, Black was at a serious disadavantage. After 20...Nd6 21.Qd3 (1.57) (16 ply), 21...Rd8, White's advantage increased. Riumin then returned nearly all of his advantage with 24.Ne2? (see my earlier analysis). Capablanca then returned the favor and missed his last chances. |
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| Sep-21-07 | | Calli: <P + 2> I started a NY 1893 collection but didn't finish it. As time permits. So who is playing Pillsbury in your avatar picture? |
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Sep-23-07
| | Pawn and Two: <Calli> That is a good question. The photograph was included in "Hastings 1895", by Colin Crouch & Kean Haines and in, "Pillsbury's Chess Career", by P. W. Sergeant & W. H. Watts. In "Hastings 1895", the authors state that the photograph is not from the Hastings 1895 tournament, but was taken from Chess Pie, 1922. A review of the Dover reprint of, "The Hastings Chess Tournament 1895", also gives indication that the picture is not from that tournament. In "Pillsbury's Chess Career", The caption under the photograph states, <This photograph was kindly lent for reproduction by the Secretary of the Brighton Chess Club.> This clue leads me to believe the photograh was taken either in Brighton or perhaps in nearby Hastings. Also, based on the photograph, I believe it was taken in the later part of Pillsbury's chess career. A review of, "Harry Nelson Pillsbury - American Chess Champion", by Jacques Pope, shows that Pillsbury, in the later part of his career, conducted 2 blindfold exhibitions in Hastings, 05/01/02 and 04/22/03. There were also at least 3 consultation games in 1902 & 1903 in Hastings and Sussex county. These games are; Friedberger & Marshall vs Pillsbury & Womersley on 05/02/02 in Hastings, and Dobell & Pillsbury vs Blackburne & Chapman on 04/30/02 in Hastings, and Blackburne & Chapman vs Pillsbury & Dobell on 04/19/03 in Sussex county. Pillsbury and Dobell won both games against Blackburne & Chapman. Marshall & Friedberger won their game against Pillsbury & Womersley. So, perhaps the photograph was taken at one of these events, or maybe Pillsbury was just enjoying a good cigar. I would be interested to know if you find any additional information about this photograph. |
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| Sep-23-07 | | Calli: <P+2> Sorry, I assumed you had seen the the full photograph in the 1893 album. It is from Fred Wilson's Picture History of chess and labeled 1893. Direct link: http://picasaweb.google.com/Caissa1... Obviously its at the Manhattan CC. |
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| Sep-23-07 | | Calli: Oops my bad! Thats a picture different from your avatar. Anyway I still don't know who he is playing, likely some club member. |
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Sep-24-07
| | Pawn and Two: <Calli> In the photograph from the Manhattan CC 1893, with Mackenzie's and Steinitz's pictures in the background, I believe Pillsbury's opponent is Taubenhaus. However, the position on the board is not from their tournament game. |
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| Sep-24-07 | | Calli: Yes, you are right, its Taubenhaus. Thanks! |
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| Sep-05-09 | | whiteshark: After the suggested <24.Be5!> Fritz 11 evaluates 24...g5 and 25...f6 as best moves. But sliding forwards only leads to desperate positions (again). |
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Nov-05-14
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Feb-09-20
 | | Phony Benoni: A game often remembered only because of the rare sight of Capablanca losing on time forfeit. But Riumin deserves far more credit than that. |
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Feb-09-20
 | | perfidious: Riumin, while never well known outside the Soviet Union, was already strong enough to have finished second to Botvinnik at Leningrad the year before, ahead of Euwe. Ill health took Riumin far too soon. |
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| Feb-09-20 | | GlennOliver: Today's pun - "Class Riumin".
I fear this relates to some cultural reference unknown to me, any clues would be appreciated. |
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Feb-09-20
 | | OhioChessFan: "Class Reunion" |
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| Feb-09-20 | | GlennOliver: Thank you, OCF.
That was a stretch too far for my punderstanding. |
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| Feb-09-20 | | chessrookstwo: Stumbling block here for cap |
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| Feb-09-20 | | JimNorCal: Thanks, OCF, I had mistakenly guessed Class Roomin', as in Capa being schooled by his opponent |
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| Feb-09-20 | | RandomVisitor: After the improvement 17...e5 the game is even if followed by 18.cxd5
click for larger viewStockfish_20012509_x64_modern:
<55/74 3:05:35 -0.13 18.cxd5 Ngf6 19.f3 Bxh3> 20.Bxh3 Qxh3 21.fxe4 Nxe4 22.Bxe5 0-0 23.Rf1 Rfe8 24.Bb2 Rac8 25.Rf4 g5 26.Rf1 Qd7 27.Rd1 Rc5 28.Qd3 Qxb5 29.Qxb5 Rxb5 30.Ba1 Rb3 31.Rf5 Rxe3+ 32.Kf1 g4 33.Bb2 f6 34.d6 Rd8 35.d7 Rf3+ 36.Rxf3 gxf3 37.Rd5 Kf7 38.Rd4 Nc5 39.Rd6 Rxd7 40.Rxf6+ Ke8 41.Rxf3 Rd1+ 42.Ke2 Rh1 43.Rf2 Ne4 44.Rg2 Kd7 45.Ke3 Nc5 46.Bd4 Rc1 47.Rd2 Nb3 48.Bb2+ Nxd2 49.Bxc1 Nf1+ 50.Kf4 Kc6 51.h4 b5 52.Kf3 Kc5 53.h5 b4 <54/83 3:05:35 -0.54 18.f3 Nxe3 19.Bc1> d4 20.fxe4 Bxh3 21.Bxh3 Qxh3 22.Bxe3 dxe3 23.0-0-0 Rc8 24.Kb2 0-0 25.Rhf1 Rfd8 26.Qxe3 h5 27.Qe2 Rd4 28.Rxd4 exd4 29.Rd1 Rd8 30.Qf2 a4 31.Rd2 Qe6 32.Qe2 Qf6 33.Qd3 b6 34.Rc2 Qe5 35.Ka2 Qe7 36.Re2 Qe6 37.Rf2 g6 38.Kb2 Rc8 39.Rc2 Qe5 40.Rd2 Rd8 41.Kc2 Qc5 42.Kb1 Rc8 43.Rc2 Qe5 44.Ka2 Kg7 45.Rd2 Rd8 46.Qc2 54/90 3:05:35 -0.91 18.Rd1 Ngf6 19.f3 Bxh3 20.Bxh3 Qxh3 21.fxe4 dxc4 22.Bxe5 Qe6 23.Bxf6 Qxf6 24.e5 Qxe5 25.Qxc4 Qxe3+ 26.Qe2 Qxe2+ 27.Kxe2 Ke7 28.Rd3 Rhd8 29.Re3+ Kf8 30.Rc1 Rac8 31.Rec3 Rxc3 32.Rxc3 Ke7 33.Re3+ Kf6 34.Rf3+ Kg6 35.Rf4 Rd5 36.a4 h6 37.Rc4 Rd7 38.Kf3 f5 39.Rc8 Kf6 40.Rb8 Ke5 41.h4 g6 42.h5 g5 43.Rh8 Rd6 44.Rh7 b6 45.Ke3 f4+ 46.gxf4+ gxf4+ 47.Ke2 Kf5 48.Rc7 Re6+ 49.Kf3 Re3+ 50.Kf2 Rb3 51.Rh7 |
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| Feb-09-20 | | thegoodanarchist: Even Capa had problems with "the problem bishop" |
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| Feb-09-20 | | Kingpin1965: This is not a game of the day! This is a game of blunders. Was this game played after Capa's stroke!. [Event "Moscow"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1935.02.15"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Nikolai Nikolaevich Riumin"]
[Black "Jose Raul Capablanca"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E37"]
[Annotator "Tactical Analysis 3.0 (20s)"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[EventDate "1935.02.15"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 Ne4 7. Qc2 c5 8.
dxc5 Nc6 9. e3 Qa5+ 10. Bd2 $1 Qxc5 0.56/23 (10... Nxd2 $11 0.10/32 11.
Qxd2 dxc4) 11. b4 Qe7 ...♕f6 is the strong threat. 12. Bc1 a5 White is
slightly better. 13. b5 $1 Ne5 14. Bb2 Ng4 $1 15. Nh3 $1 $36 White fights
for an advantage. Qh4 1.46/25 (15... e5 $11 0.29/27) 16. g3 0.10/29 (16.
Bxg7 $16 1.46/25 Nxe3 17. Qd3) 16... Qh6 $11 17. Qe2 -0.82/28 (17. Bg2 $11
0.10/29 remains equal.) 17... Ngf6 $2 1.13/26 (17... e5 $17 -0.82/28) 18.
Nf4 $16 O-O 1.56/27 [#] (18... Bd7 $142 1.03/30) 19. Bg2 $1 dxc4 1.74/25
(19... Re8 $16 1.11/28 is a better defense.) 20. Qxc4 $18 Nd6 $2 3.46/23 (
20... Nxf2 1.68/32 21. Kxf2 e5) 21. Qd3 Rd8 22. Rd1 Nfe8 23. O-O a4 [#] 24.
Ne2 $2 0.13/33 (White has to play 24. Be5 $1 $18 2.98/25) 24... Bd7 $11
25. Nc3 Ra5 $2 2.04/25 (25... Qh5 $11 0.19/29) 26. Qd4 $18 Qg5 $2 3.90/27
(26... Bxb5 2.04/30 was necessary. 27. Qb4 Rda8) 27. Qb4 White is winning.
b6 28. Rd2 Bxb5 29. Rfd1 h6 $2 6.93/30 Accuracy: White = 57%, ♗lack = 35%. (
29... Rc8 3.85/29 30. Rxd6 Nxd6) 1-0 |
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| Feb-09-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 25.Nc3 Stockfish likes 25...Qh5, with over an hour of computer time to sort through all the critical variations
click for larger viewStockfish_20012509_x64_modern:
<59/88 1:23:15 +0.13 25...Qh5 26.Rd2 Nxb5> 27.Rfd1 Nbd6 28.Qf1 Bc6 29.Bxc6 bxc6 30.Ne4 Nb7 31.Rxd8 Rxd8 32.Rxd8 Nxd8 33.Nc3 h6 34.Qd3 Qa5 35.Qd4 e5 36.Qxa4 Qb6 37.Qc2 Nd6 38.Nb1 Nc4 39.Qxc4 Qxb2 40.Qd3 Ne6 41.Nd2 Nc5 42.Qd6 Qxa3 43.Qxe5 Qc1+ 44.Kg2 Qxd2 45.Qxc5 Qd7 46.h3 g6 47.h4 Kg7 48.Kf3 f6 49.e4 g5 50.hxg5 hxg5 51.Ke3 g4 52.Kf4 Qd3 53.Qe7+ Kg6 54.Kxg4 c5 55.Qe8+ Kg7 56.f4 c4 57.Kf5 c3 58.Qe6 c2 59.Qxf6+ Kh7 |
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Jun-29-22
 | | Honza Cervenka: <A game often remembered only because of the rare sight of Capablanca losing on time forfeit.> Well, I guess that after quite obvious 30.Ne4 black can just resign. |
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