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Sipke Ernst vs Daniel Stellwagen
Dutch Championship (2003), Leeuwarden NED, rd 5, Jul-01
Benoni Defense: Taimanov Variation (A67)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jul-01-03
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Jul-01-03  Larsker: Yes, yes - where do we buy popcorn?
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: ...this is so exciting!!! =)
Jul-01-03
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Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: Oh my God! Stellwagen is meeting the ferocious Taimanov attack with the "wrong" ...Nbd7 which loses a piece... or is it a sacrifice???

This is guaranteed to get crazy in a hurry, folks!

Jul-01-03
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  lostemperor: Nice a benoni. Ok I already got one question. Is 3... e6 necessary in the Benoni? I think castling first (after 3... d6 4...g6 and 5...Bg7 6...0-0 and only then 7...e6 will avoid the check we see this game and a lot of nasty white variations. Not?
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: 20 minutes into the game and we're already looking at an ending. But it's a very imbalanced ending; should prove to be instructional.
Jul-01-03
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  lostemperor: Sneaky to aswer your question <8...Nbd7> is indeed given a <"?"> in every openingsbook but it is restored although I cannot find the games here. littlewood- Hartoch London '84; Mestel Hodgson England '83; Rajna vs. Perenyi Boudapest '84 and Rajna vs. Nemeth Budapest 84. Black either draw or win!
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: lostemperor, yes you certainly can play with that move order, e.g. Z Kozul vs Nunn, 1991

However in this case I think that Stellwagen was actually inviting this variation, which is odd because the general opinion is that this whole ...Nbd7 variation is bad for Black.

Jul-01-03  crafty: 20. ... ♖ae8 21. ♔d2 ♖e4 22. ♗xc5 ♖c8 23. ♗b4 a5   (eval 1.08; depth 15 ply; 150M nodes)
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: crafty, what are you smoking???
Jul-01-03  Larsker: Your predictions as to who's gonna win this one? Stellwagen again? His pawns certainly look better.
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: Still waiting on Black's 20th move. It's a very tough one. The prospect of the knight invading the White squares via g5 looks very annoying.

But meanwhile we cannot forget the "main threat": Black must do something about the c5 pawn. So ...Rae8 looks like a good idea, since it protects c5, develops a piece, and makes a threat.

I do not like ...Kd6, because then White has a very simple plan of playing c4 and later Bf4+ where he advances strongly on the Black position.

Jul-01-03  webzary: Hey Can someone tell me how I can see all past moves on a board
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: <who's gonna win this one?> My heart's with Stellwagen, since he's the young underdog wildcard who's sweeping the tournament in Fischer-esque style. But objectively, looking at this board, I think it's an uphill effort. I think he's going to need a lot of help from Ernst if he's going to win this one.
Jul-01-03
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  chessgames.com: <Can someone tell me how I can see all past moves on a board> Sorry, for live games you can only see the current position. Once the game is over we'll put it on a normal game page where you can step through move by move. (This kibitzing will carry over on that page.)

In the future we'll provide some method for reviewing the game-so-far. For now all we have for you is the move list.

Jul-01-03  webzary: I think Black should resign now
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: Resign? Not so quick; Black has ...Rc8 here which surely is worth something.
Jul-01-03  crafty: 23. ♗d4 ♔d6 24. ♘g5 ♖xd4 25. cxd4 ♔xd5 26. ♘xh7   (eval 1.50; depth 16 ply; 250M nodes)
Jul-01-03
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  Sneaky: I made fun of crafty earlier, but the truth is, he's been right on the money.
Jul-01-03  Larsker: <I made fun of crafty earlier, but the truth is, he's been right on the money.> Yes, the revenge of the computer. Hey - I just invented a film title right there!
Jul-01-03  bishop: A double edged poition, each side has its chances, White on the kingside Black on the queenside. Black threatens ...Rc2+ with good counterchances.
Jul-01-03  Bears092: I think that black doesn't have many winning chances at all. Plus, white has a large lead in time.
Jul-01-03  BeautyInChess: Shouldn't black seek to trade pawns in this position?
Jul-01-03  Sacriflex: <Shouldn't black seek to trade pawns in this position?> Absolutely, without a doubt. What I'm not certain about is whether Black should seek to trade rooks. Opinions?
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