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|Jul-06-03|| ||Sneaky: This is an astounding game. |
|Jul-06-03|| ||TheLighterSide: Who says Q.G.D. is a quiet opening? = )
Opening preparation? or purely inspiration? regardless, Mikhalchishin has nerves of steel.
It can be a dangerous pratice to assume your opponent will fear losing his queen!
|Aug-13-03|| ||pawn2king4: So, is the most likely continuation 30...cxb5 31. c6 Qxc6 32. d7, threatening to Queen the pawn? |
|Aug-13-03|| ||pkspks: yes when you look at this game you gotta think on move 30. how white can get those passed pawns movin! |
|Aug-13-03|| ||crafty: 30. ... cxb5 31. c6 ♕xc6 32. d7 ♔g7 33. d8=♕ (eval 6.85; depth 15 ply; 100M nodes)|
|Aug-13-03|| ||AussiePatzer: What a difficult position to evaluate, after 12. Qxd8. I don't suppose crafty's opinion would be of much use in such a position. |
|Aug-13-03|| ||rodolpheb: I had already seen this great game.
Now, I think 13...b5? is a bad move.
How do you think ?
|Aug-13-03|| ||stef21: in today's chess you canot win with smooth moves (Kramnik, Leko experienced it in Dortmund), you have to go for the imbalance, and Pavasovic provided it to his opponent, the queen sac was briliant decision, you have R+B+pawn for Q and and a deadly passer on d6, sure black's defence was poor, he should not have allowed c5 d6 duo |
|Aug-13-03|| ||patzer2: Wow! After 11...Re8 I suspect many players with the white pieces here would have resigned. Yet, this position was no mistake as Michalchishin had strong winning chances after "losing his queen" to the rook's "pin." This game on the surface breaks a lot of rules for calculating combinations, based on a general assessment of the value of the pieces. It clearly demonstrates that you need to assess the position much deeper in today's game of dynamic imbalances when calculating a combination to just win material. Otherwise, you may find yourself, like black in this game -- material up but with a lost position. |
|Aug-13-03|| ||MoonlitKnight: After all, a bishop and a rook is quite a loss too. |
|Aug-13-03|| ||Qian: I am looking at Crafty's evaluation and I dont get why not 32...Qc2 instead of Qg7. |
|Aug-13-03|| ||sleepkid: 32...Qc2 has no point. It doesn't threaten anything since the rook is defended on the very next move 33. Qd8|
...Crafty plays 32. Kg7 to avoid the loss of a tempo. (If the King stays on g8, then White Queens the pawn with check.)
It doesn't really matter either way though, the game is lost for black.
|Aug-13-03|| ||Qian: oh right. |
|Aug-13-03|| ||ChessPraxis: When I first looked at this puzzle position (White to move and win at move 30) I came up with 30. Bd3 with the intention of 31. Bf5 to deflect the Queen and push the d pawn. It's very similar to the actual game and I think it also wins. |
|Aug-14-03|| ||sleepkid: ChessPraxis: That doesn't really work. It looks good at first, but in your line if 31. Bf5 then 31. ...Qd8 and you're going to have a heck of a hard time moving her from there. The win is probably still there (you'd now have to bring the bishop all the way back to c2 and then go to a4 for the shot at the c6 pawn which would win), but now it's problematic, and not as direct as the method chosen in the game. |
The key to the win is getting rid of black's c-pawn. Then when the white c pawn advances, black's queen can't retreat, because the united pawns will march down and win the game.
|Aug-14-03|| ||ChessPraxis: I see your point, sleepkid. The actual line is more direct and as you say the key is getting rid of the Black c-pawn. |
|Aug-18-03|| ||Brian Watson: rodolpheb:
I agree about 13...b5.
It seems like black wants to prevent c5, which white can't play immediately because the bishop is pinned. Black is probably thinking that 14.cb cb 15.Bxb5 would activate black's queenside pieces at the same time isolating white's passed pawn. But after 14.0-0-0 bc 15.Bc4 black would presumably find it difficult to defend f7.
|Jan-10-05|| ||aw1988: This would be good for <Power to the Pawns!> |
|Jan-10-05|| ||iron maiden: Thanks, <aw1988>, this is a nice one. |
|May-28-05|| ||Catfriend: Excellent:) I really liked the gentle final touch - the bishop moves one short step, and black's defences fail!|
|May-28-05|| ||mack: Cheers for bringing my attention to this, class game.|
|Nov-18-05|| ||aw1988: <Who says Q.G.D. is a quiet opening? = )>|
It is. This is the Slav. =)
|Feb-28-07|| ||dahlo: On move 17 M. comments :'A bad move, but also unsatisfactory is 17...Bxa2 18.Bd3 Bd5 19.Rhe1 Qd7 20.Be4!'
But if black continues with: Bxe4 Rxe4 Qf5 ... doesnt that just lose the c5 pawn? Or is this pawn not important?|
|Aug-10-07|| ||sanyas: 13...♘e5 14.♗e2 ♗g4 is much better.|
|May-29-08|| ||addiction to chess: Amazing how White sacs his queen (not to much of a sac)and bishop(that was the real sac) to get those passed pawns moving!|
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