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Thomas Wilson Barnes vs Paul Morphy
"Barnes Storming" (game of the day Aug-20-2009)
Casual Game (1858), London ENG
Philidor Defense: Philidor Countergambit (C41)  ·  0-1



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Aug-20-09  MohdSalah: Morphy is weired! although he is very strong player but he someimes makes silly mistakes!
Aug-20-09  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <MohdSalah> Morphy is dead for a century-or-so, btw ;)
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  kevin86: His body is dead-his spirit lives forever.Another Morphy great!
Aug-20-09  xqdashi: mohdsalah can you please explain your assertion that Morphy is "weird" and makes "silly mistakes"???? Can you give an example?
Aug-20-09  The Lone Banana: Calli: <First book of morphy also has 11..Qg2>

Qxg2 in such a situation is a natural move to make as soon as your opponent allows it. Pawn grabbing is not the point, but rather (a.) aggressive posting of your queen (b.) loss of a tempo by your opponent moving the rook (c.) to an unimpressive posting and (d.) forever destroying the prospects of a castle to that side.

HOWEVER, in the game as listed here, I have to ask: why was the black queen *still* able to capture the g2 pawn on move 12? I can understand capturing the rook and letting the black queen onto the g file on move 10, and removing the B from its post guarding the g2 pawn on move 11 (the d6 pawn and the knight's route of retreat intuitively seem more important). However, IF a black player did not pounce at once on the g2 pawn, why should anyone with the white pieces develop the QN on move 12?

Isn't 0-0 the best developing move?

Aug-20-09  slapshots101: i feel like 10. Nxh8 is wrong, maybe Bh4 is better? here is a possible line 10. bh4 bxe6 11. nxh8 nc6 12. c3 d3 13. nd2 nf6. and this seems a more winnable game for white.
Aug-20-09  AnalyzeThis: This whole gambit is very complex. I rememeber one time I let Fritz 10 run on it for 10 hours, it still didn't understand some of the stuff that I've seen written in books about this.
Aug-20-09  shakespeare: It seems that this opening is perfect for really wild games G Salmon vs D Szabo, 1858
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  Calli: <LoneB> on 12. 0-0 Ne5 is too powerful. 12.Nf7 is to stop Ne5.
Aug-20-09  WhiteRook48: 23...Qxf1!!!
Aug-20-09  The Lone Banana: <Calli---12. 0-0 Ne5 is too powerful. 12.Nf7 is to stop Ne5.>

Oops! I totally missed that line. Thank you.

However, it couldn't be much worse than the text. In fact, I think I would prefer

13.Nf7 as a *reply after*

12... Ne5 as opposed to

12.Nf7 to *prevent* it.

After 12. 0-0 Ne5, 13. Nf7, black would still threaten

13... NxB

13... Nf6+

and 13... NxN

but the white threat of 14.NxQ puts the kibosh on most attacks and forces a loss of tempo to defend.

13... NxNf7
14.f7+ K moves
14.pxNb8(Q) [+] wins at once

13... NxBc4

13... Nc6+
14. QxNc6 c6
15. NxQg5

Aug-20-09  Gambit All: I'd never viewed this game before. Every time you play through a good Morphy game for the first time - full of surprising, jaw dropping moves conjured up in the face of material deficits in wild positions - it's like reading a good ghost story for the first time when you hadn't thought you could still be scared; or, discovering a good old movie you'd never seen made by a director or starring an actor you'd loved.
Aug-31-09  mandy64: The Philidor countergambit is weak.
The correct reply is 4.Bc4 and white has a better game.
Aug-31-09  shach matov: To see moves like 15 ... Bc8xe6! one really does need to have a special chess brain like Morphy's.
Mar-21-11  jbtigerwolf: notyetagm, thanks for the informative commentary, but you do not need to put the starting square in your notation. It is really irritating to read: 16 ... Nb4-d3+!! 17 c2xd3?? Bc5-b4+ 18 Qd1-d2 Qg2xQd2# You could make it readable to us players as we do our notation in the clubs (and at home!) like this: 16...Nxd3+ 17.cxd3 Bb4+ 18.Qd2 Qxd2#
Much easier to read.
A player would resign after Black's 16th or 17th move.
Oct-10-11  Llawdogg: Wow! 15 ... Bxe6!
Apr-11-14  yureesystem: Morphy is really amazing, some player said Morphy is 2300 FIDE, I would say at least 2600 FIDE and that is low, maybe 2700 level.
Sep-11-16  oxxo: 10. Bc4 rather than Nxf8 would have worked much better for white.
Jan-18-17  zanzibar: A PGN with Source and Annotations (care of Lowenthal), plus a few asides from Stockfish:


[Event "casual"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "1858.??.??"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Barnes, Thomas W."]
[Black "Morphy, Paul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C41"]
[EventDate "1858.??.??"]
[Annotator "Lowenthal, Johann"]
[Source "Morphy's Games (1860), Book IV, G6, p303"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5 4.dxe5 fxe4 5.Ng5 d5 6.e6 Bc5 7.Nf7
{(a) As we have stated previously, Nxe4 is here the correct move.}
7...Qf6 8.Be3 d4
{(b) This gives Black a fine attack [ed- suspect]}
9.Bg5 Qf5 10.Nxh8
{[? - 10.Bc4, sharp, keeps the advantage]}
( 10.Bc4 h6 11.g4 Qh7 12.Bh4 ) 10...Qxg5 11.Bc4 Nc6 12.Nf7
{[? - 12.O-O is probably best]}
12...Qxg2 13.Rf1 Nf6 14.f3
{(c) Highly objectionable, exposing him unnecessarily to an assault of formible nature. [? - 14.Qd2 or 14.Nd2 are both better]}
{(d) The promptitude with which Mr. Morphy takes advantage of his opponent's error is well worth notice.}
{(e) The only move avert the threatened danger.}
( 15.Qe2 exf3 16.Qxg2 fxg2 17.Rg1 Nxc2+ ) 15...Bxe6
{(f) This is all very instructive.}
16.Bxe6 $201
{(g) Mr. Barnes did not give sufficient attention to the position, or he must have observed how greatly this move compromises his game. The diagram shows the position (top p304).}
( 16.Qe2 Qxe2+ 17.Kxe2 d3+ 18.cxd3 exd3+ 19.Kd2 Kxf7 ) 16...Nd3+ 17.Qxd3
{(h) White was compelled to sacrifice the Queen; for if instead he had captured N with P, he would have been mated in two moves.}
( 17.cxd3 Bb4+ 18.Qd2 Qxd2# ) 17...exd3 18.O-O-O Bxa3 19.Bb3 d2+
{(i) These moves are all in the best style. [ed- not necessarily true, 19...dxc2 is probably slightly stronger]}
( 19...dxc2 20.Rfe1+ Kf8 21.Bxc2 ( 21.Rd3 Bb4 22.Re5 Bd6 23.Nxd6 Qg1+ 24.Kxc2 Qxh2+ 25.Rd2 Qxe5 ) 21...Kxf7 ) 20.Kb1
{(k) It is clear that he could not take the Pawn without incurring the loss of his two rooks.}
20...Bc5 21.Ne5 Kf8 22.Nd3 Re8 23.Nxc5 ( 23.Rf2 Re1 24.Rxd2 Rxd1+ 25.Rxd1 Qxf3 ) 23...Qxf1 24.Ne6+ Rxe6



Sure would be nice to have verbatim mode.

($201 is NAG for D = diagram)

Jan-18-17  zanzibar: What some call barn storming, others call promptitude!
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  MissScarlett: <There is no book that has the error, AFAIK. It is only a internet phenomenon. The earliest publication of the game is Chess Monthly Sept 1858, vol3 p.267 which also has 11...Nc6. Morphy himself was an editor of the publication.>

The <ILN> of August 21st 1858, p.181, has <11...Nc6>. Even Staunton was moved to grant that <15...Bxe6> was <highly ingenious>. He terminated the game with <23...Qxf1>.

Jul-10-18  zanzibar: Gheesh <MissS> - show your sources...

T W Barnes vs Morphy, 1858 (kibitz #16)

When quoting Calli, at least say so, damn it!

Aug-29-18  jabinjikanza: So exiting.good end game
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  MissScarlett: <Chess Monthly Sept 1858, vol3 p.267>

This too gives 23...Qxf1 as the end, as does what must surely be the earliest publication, <The Era> of August 1st 1858, p.5. So are there any printed sources that actually give <24.Ne6+ Rxe6>?

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  MissScarlett: The date of publication suggests this game was probably played in July, the same month as Staunton / Owen vs Morphy / Barnes, 1858, but its a moot point as to which occurred first.

I don't know if 6...Bc5 had been analysed before in print - it's not mentioned in Staunton's <CPH> (1847), and in his <ILN> column, mentioned above, he says: <The usual move is 6...Nh6; on which White's best play we believe to be 7.Nc3; a move to which no satisfactory defence has yet been shown. The move adopted by Black in the present game appears to be stronger than bringing out the King's Kt, but it has yet to undergo analysis.> and upon Barnes's reply, <He might have taken the K Pawn, regaining the piece, if his Kt were captured, by checking with the Queen at KR5th, &c.>

By <Chess Praxis> (1860), he could dismiss 6...Bc5 in a single line due to 7.Nxe4.

Just three days after this column, in the first round of the Birmingham tournament, it looks as if someone had been paying attention:

G Salmon vs I Szabo, 1858

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