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Thomas Wilson Barnes vs Paul Morphy
"Barnes Storming" (game of the day Aug-20-2009)
Casual Game (1858), London ENG
Philidor Defense: Philidor Countergambit (C41)  ·  0-1

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Oct-10-08
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  mjmorri: This game was one of the two games featured in the chess article in the Encyclopaedia Britannic (9th edition 1878-1888). The other was Anderssen's Immortal Game. Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851

My great-grandfather had a copy of this marvelous encyclopaedia, which was passed down to my father. When I first became interested in chess, that article was one of the first I read on the subject. I remember being amazed by all the sacrifices.

Aug-20-09  MohdSalah: Morphy is weired! although he is very strong player but he someimes makes silly mistakes!
Aug-20-09  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <MohdSalah> Morphy is dead for a century-or-so, btw ;)
Aug-20-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: His body is dead-his spirit lives forever.Another Morphy great!
Aug-20-09  xqdashi: mohdsalah can you please explain your assertion that Morphy is "weird" and makes "silly mistakes"???? Can you give an example?
Aug-20-09  The Lone Banana: Calli: <First book of morphy also has 11..Qg2>

Qxg2 in such a situation is a natural move to make as soon as your opponent allows it. Pawn grabbing is not the point, but rather (a.) aggressive posting of your queen (b.) loss of a tempo by your opponent moving the rook (c.) to an unimpressive posting and (d.) forever destroying the prospects of a castle to that side.

HOWEVER, in the game as listed here, I have to ask: why was the black queen *still* able to capture the g2 pawn on move 12? I can understand capturing the rook and letting the black queen onto the g file on move 10, and removing the B from its post guarding the g2 pawn on move 11 (the d6 pawn and the knight's route of retreat intuitively seem more important). However, IF a black player did not pounce at once on the g2 pawn, why should anyone with the white pieces develop the QN on move 12?

Isn't 0-0 the best developing move?

Aug-20-09  slapshots101: i feel like 10. Nxh8 is wrong, maybe Bh4 is better? here is a possible line 10. bh4 bxe6 11. nxh8 nc6 12. c3 d3 13. nd2 nf6. and this seems a more winnable game for white.
Aug-20-09  AnalyzeThis: This whole gambit is very complex. I rememeber one time I let Fritz 10 run on it for 10 hours, it still didn't understand some of the stuff that I've seen written in books about this.
Aug-20-09  shakespeare: It seems that this opening is perfect for really wild games G Salmon vs D Szabo, 1858
Aug-20-09
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  Calli: <LoneB> on 12. 0-0 Ne5 is too powerful. 12.Nf7 is to stop Ne5.
Aug-20-09  WhiteRook48: 23...Qxf1!!!
Aug-20-09  The Lone Banana: <Calli---12. 0-0 Ne5 is too powerful. 12.Nf7 is to stop Ne5.>

Oops! I totally missed that line. Thank you.

However, it couldn't be much worse than the text. In fact, I think I would prefer

13.Nf7 as a *reply after*

12... Ne5 as opposed to

12.Nf7 to *prevent* it.

After 12. 0-0 Ne5, 13. Nf7, black would still threaten

13... NxB

13... Nf6+

and 13... NxN

but the white threat of 14.NxQ puts the kibosh on most attacks and forces a loss of tempo to defend.

13... NxNf7
14.f7+ K moves
14.pxNb8(Q) [+] wins at once

13... NxBc4
14.NxQg5

13... Nc6+
14. QxNc6 c6
15. NxQg5

Aug-20-09  Gambit All: I'd never viewed this game before. Every time you play through a good Morphy game for the first time - full of surprising, jaw dropping moves conjured up in the face of material deficits in wild positions - it's like reading a good ghost story for the first time when you hadn't thought you could still be scared; or, discovering a good old movie you'd never seen made by a director or starring an actor you'd loved.
Aug-31-09  mandy64: The Philidor countergambit is weak.
The correct reply is 4.Bc4 and white has a better game.
Aug-31-09  shach matov: To see moves like 15 ... Bc8xe6! one really does need to have a special chess brain like Morphy's.
Mar-21-11  jbtigerwolf: notyetagm, thanks for the informative commentary, but you do not need to put the starting square in your notation. It is really irritating to read: 16 ... Nb4-d3+!! 17 c2xd3?? Bc5-b4+ 18 Qd1-d2 Qg2xQd2# You could make it readable to us players as we do our notation in the clubs (and at home!) like this: 16...Nxd3+ 17.cxd3 Bb4+ 18.Qd2 Qxd2#
Much easier to read.
A player would resign after Black's 16th or 17th move.
Oct-10-11  Llawdogg: Wow! 15 ... Bxe6!
Apr-11-14  yureesystem: Morphy is really amazing, some player said Morphy is 2300 FIDE, I would say at least 2600 FIDE and that is low, maybe 2700 level.
Sep-11-16  oxxo: 10. Bc4 rather than Nxf8 would have worked much better for white.
Jan-18-17  zanzibar: A PGN with Source and Annotations (care of Lowenthal), plus a few asides from Stockfish:

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[Event "casual"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "1858.??.??"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Barnes, Thomas W."]
[Black "Morphy, Paul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C41"]
[EventDate "1858.??.??"]
[Annotator "Lowenthal, Johann"]
[Source "Morphy's Games (1860), Book IV, G6, p303"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5 4.dxe5 fxe4 5.Ng5 d5 6.e6 Bc5 7.Nf7
{(a) As we have stated previously, Nxe4 is here the correct move.}
7...Qf6 8.Be3 d4
{(b) This gives Black a fine attack [ed- suspect]}
9.Bg5 Qf5 10.Nxh8
{[? - 10.Bc4, sharp, keeps the advantage]}
( 10.Bc4 h6 11.g4 Qh7 12.Bh4 ) 10...Qxg5 11.Bc4 Nc6 12.Nf7
{[? - 12.O-O is probably best]}
12...Qxg2 13.Rf1 Nf6 14.f3
{(c) Highly objectionable, exposing him unnecessarily to an assault of formible nature. [? - 14.Qd2 or 14.Nd2 are both better]}
14...Nb4
{(d) The promptitude with which Mr. Morphy takes advantage of his opponent's error is well worth notice.}
15.Na3
{(e) The only move avert the threatened danger.}
( 15.Qe2 exf3 16.Qxg2 fxg2 17.Rg1 Nxc2+ ) 15...Bxe6
{(f) This is all very instructive.}
16.Bxe6 $201
{(g) Mr. Barnes did not give sufficient attention to the position, or he must have observed how greatly this move compromises his game. The diagram shows the position (top p304).}
( 16.Qe2 Qxe2+ 17.Kxe2 d3+ 18.cxd3 exd3+ 19.Kd2 Kxf7 ) 16...Nd3+ 17.Qxd3
{(h) White was compelled to sacrifice the Queen; for if instead he had captured N with P, he would have been mated in two moves.}
( 17.cxd3 Bb4+ 18.Qd2 Qxd2# ) 17...exd3 18.O-O-O Bxa3 19.Bb3 d2+
{(i) These moves are all in the best style. [ed- not necessarily true, 19...dxc2 is probably slightly stronger]}
( 19...dxc2 20.Rfe1+ Kf8 21.Bxc2 ( 21.Rd3 Bb4 22.Re5 Bd6 23.Nxd6 Qg1+ 24.Kxc2 Qxh2+ 25.Rd2 Qxe5 ) 21...Kxf7 ) 20.Kb1
{(k) It is clear that he could not take the Pawn without incurring the loss of his two rooks.}
20...Bc5 21.Ne5 Kf8 22.Nd3 Re8 23.Nxc5 ( 23.Rf2 Re1 24.Rxd2 Rxd1+ 25.Rxd1 Qxf3 ) 23...Qxf1 24.Ne6+ Rxe6

0-1

>

Sure would be nice to have verbatim mode.

($201 is NAG for D = diagram)

Jan-18-17  zanzibar: What some call barn storming, others call promptitude!
Jul-09-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <There is no book that has the error, AFAIK. It is only a internet phenomenon. The earliest publication of the game is Chess Monthly Sept 1858, vol3 p.267 which also has 11...Nc6. Morphy himself was an editor of the publication.>

The <ILN> of August 21st 1858, p.181, has <11...Nc6>. Even Staunton was moved to grant that <15...Bxe6> was <highly ingenious>. He terminated the game with <23...Qxf1>.

Jul-10-18  zanzibar: Gheesh <MissS> - show your sources...

T W Barnes vs Morphy, 1858 (kibitz #16)

When quoting Calli, at least say so, damn it!

Aug-29-18  jabinjikanza: So exiting.good end game
Sep-23-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <Chess Monthly Sept 1858, vol3 p.267>

This too gives 23...Qxf1 as the end, as does what must surely be the earliest publication, <The Era> of August 1st 1858, p.5. So are there any printed sources that actually give <24.Ne6+ Rxe6>?

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