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| Nov-08-04 | | zhentil: in the grunfeld, black's dark-squared bishop is usually worth at least a rook. there are many lines in which white will play d4-d5, leaving the a1-rook hanging. the pressure that white exerts on the weakened kingside dark squares more than compensates for the loss of the exchange. |
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| Nov-08-04 | | aragorn69: 19.Bxg5!! is definitely winning: Black stays with an advantage of rook and knight, but his king is helpless against White's queen and pieces coordination. I remember seeing extensive analysis by Shipov - who thought this one of his best games ever - on kasparovchess.com. I don't know if it's still available somewhere, though... :-( |
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| Nov-08-04 | | cheski: <aragorn>I share your :-( and miss our Sergey very much indeed. I know he still writes for a Russian website, but I much preferred his lovely version of English. (This translates into: I don't even recognize the Russian letters). |
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| Nov-08-04 | | Saruman: <An Englishman>18.Qd4 Qxe2 19.Bf6 Bb5 20.Rd1 Bxe7 21.Bxe7 Qc4 22.Qb2 Qc2 23.Qd4 Qc3 with no mating ideas like Bf6-h8-Qg7# in sight. |
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Nov-08-04
 | | kevin86: The final position s lost without even seeing the tactics.Black has a queen,two rooks,knight,and bishop on the queenside doing NOTHING! White has a queen,bishop,knight,and two pawns-ALL ACTIVE! Black hasleft behind a sitted bishop to protect his king---how bad! |
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| Nov-08-04 | | aw1988: Hilarious pun. |
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Nov-08-04
 | | tpstar: Yes, much more positive than Shipov Fools. White's father was also quite good at chess, therefore his son was a Shipov the old block. By winning so brilliantly, you could say Sergei's Shipov sailed the Seven (VII) Seas! |
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| Nov-20-04 | | cheski: <tpstar> Did you mean CCCCCCC :-) |
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Nov-20-04
| | tpstar: <cheski> Actually that's the Seven Hundred Seas, but for trying so hard I'll give you a Sea Plus. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | areknames: Great game and puzzle. 19.Bxg5 and Rxf7 are screaming out to be played. Shipov just smashes the guy, general principles at work yet again. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | Robespierre: Great sentiment for the subtitle! I remember my uncles who'd been in WW II repeating the expression, "Shape up or ship out!" |
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| Aug-14-20 | | Walter Glattke: After19.Rxf7 gxh5! black has a better defense, while 19.Rxf7 Kxf7!? 20.Nxg5+ hxg5 21.Bh6+ Ke7 or Kg7 is the end for black, therefore 19.Bxg5 hxg5? better seems 19.-Bxe7 20.Rxb7 Qb2 21.Nh4 Be8 22.Qg3 or 21.-Bd7 22.Bh5 but the black position is rather defenseless with RNR offside pieces. In the last match position I see queen lose with 24.Qf7+ Be7 25.Bb5+ either Kd8 26.Ne6# or 25.-Nc6 dxc6+ and QxQ or 25.-Kc7 26.d6+ Kb6 27.Qxa2 Bxd6 28.exd6 Kxb5 29.Qd5+ and Qxa8 wins. |
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Aug-14-20
 | | al wazir: Black can hold out at least a little while longer with 22...Bd7: 23. Qf3/Qh7+ Kd8; 23. e6 Bxe6 . |
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Aug-14-20
 | | drollere: <Black can hold out at least a little while longer> 22...Bd7, 23. Qf3 Kd8, 24. Q:f8+ Kc7 (Be8, 25. Ne6+ Kd7, 26. Qd6#), 25. Rc1+ Nc6, 26. R:c6+ B:c6, 27. Ne6+ and mate in a few. |
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Aug-14-20
 | | agb2002: White is one pawn up.
Black threatens Bxe7 and gxh4.
White has Rxf7, Bxg5, d6 and e5.
The first winning line I've found is 19.Rxf7 Kxf7 20.Ne5+ Kf6 21.Qf3+ Kxe5 22.Bg3+ Kd4 23.Qe3# but I've been unable to solve the alternatives (20... Kg8 21.Qf3(h5) Be8). I don't know but I'd probably play 19.Rxf7. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | Brenin: With all his pieces socially distancing on the rim, Black's 18 ... g5 was asking for trouble, and White duly provided it. The sacrifices 19 Bxg5 and 20 Rxf7 were not hard to see, but I couldn't convince myself that they worked against all Black's possible responses, such as Qa3, Qc2 or Nd7 instead of hxg5 or Kxf7. OTB I'd have sac'd and hoped for the best. |
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Aug-14-20
 | | perfidious: This sort of 'social distancing' is what one might call imprudent, not to mention hazardous to the health of the black king. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | Brenin: <agb2002>: After 19 Rxf7 Kxf7 20 Ne5+, 20 ... Kg8 looks safer than Kf6, with 21 Qf3 Be8 22 Bb5 Qa3 23 Qf5 Qe7 24 d6 Qd8 more or less forced for both sides, each on a knife-edge. I find the resulting position both amusing and totally unclear. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | mel gibson: I saw the first move but I was uncertain about it. Stockfish 11 says:
19. Bxg5
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Bxg5 (♗h4xg5 ♘b8-d7 ♕d3-e3 ♕a2-b2 e4-e5 ♖c8-c3 ♕e3-f4 ♗f8xe7 ♗g5xh6 ♕b2-c2
e5-e6 ♕c2-g6 ♕f4xa4 ♕g6xh6 ♕a4xd7 ♕h6-f6 ♘f3-d2 ♖a8-d8 ♕d7-b7 ♔g8-f8 ♘d2-e4
♕f6-e5 ♘e4xc3 ♕e5xc3 e6xf7 ♕c3-e5 ♗e2-f3 ♔f8-g7 g2-g3 ♗e7-c5 ♕b7-c6 ♗c5-b6
♕c6-a4 ♔g7xf7 ♕a4-g4 ♗b6-d4 ♔g1-g2 ♗d4-b6 ♖f1-c1 ♖d8xd5 ♖c1-c8 ♔f7-e7
♗f3xd5 ♕e5xd5+ ♔g2-g1) +5.22/39 205)
score for White + 5.22 depth 39. |
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Aug-14-20
 | | chrisowen: Yikes, 18...g5 effort-less glide givers of life to white like in 18...Nd7 balanced it out axle grind. I’ve one iota in hark black gone for the jaffa juiced it switching general it is a ploy botticelli like winners keepsake yeah mob likely kingside get thought of hog f7 double trouble take off it is what a tiger! |
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| Aug-14-20 | | Mendrys: It would be easy to say that after 18. Qd3 black is fine since, after a long think, a strong chess engine like Stockfish evaluated the position as 0.00. The reality is that if you are going to have such positional "irregularities" as having every one of your pieces on the edge of the board with only one piece to defend your king and your opponent is rated at least a few hundred points above you then you had better have a very clever, solid plan else the slightest misstep is going to be disaster. The white rook on the seventh rank is a monster that black never knows how to deal with. Other, likely better than me, players have noted that white's rook is at least worth black's dark squared bishop. <zhentil: in the grunfeld, black's dark-squared bishop is usually worth at least a rook. there are many lines in which white will play d4-d5, leaving the a1-rook hanging. the pressure that white exerts on the weakened kingside dark squares more than compensates for the loss of the exchange.> This game is very instructive in that regard. |
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| Aug-14-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 18...g5
click for larger viewStockfish_20081207_x64_modern:
<54/88 3:11:14 +6.17 19.Bxg5 Nd7 20.Qe3 Re8 21.Rxe8> Rxe8 22.Bf4 Qa3 23.Bd3 a6 24.e5 Bb5 25.Ne1 Qc5 26.Qg3+ Kh8 27.e6 Qxd5 28.exd7 Bxd7 54/114 3:11:14 +0.86 19.Rxf7 Kxf7 20.Ne5+ Kg8 21.Qf3 Be8 22.Bb5 Qa3 23.Qf5 Qe7 24.d6 Qd8 25.Qe6+ Kh8 26.Bg3 Bg7 27.d7 Nxd7 28.Nxd7 Bxd7 |
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| Aug-14-20 | | RandomVisitor: After the improvement 18...Nd7 black appears to have an even game:
click for larger viewStockfish_20080713_x64_modern:
69/60 4:57:16 0.00 19.Qe3 Rab8 20.d6 Bxe7 21.dxe7 Bb5 22.Bxb5 Rxb5 23.Qd3 Rb7 24.Ne5 Qe6 25.Nc4 Rxc4 26.e8R+ Qxe8 27.Qxc4 Ne5 28.Qc3 g5 68/46 4:57:16 0.00 19.d6 Rab8 20.Qe3 Bxe7 21.dxe7 Bb5 22.Bxb5 Rxb5 23.Qd3 Rb7 24.Ne5 Qe6 25.Nc4 Rxc4 26.e8R+ Qxe8 27.Qxc4 Ne5 28.Qc3 g5 68/54 4:57:16 0.00 19.Rxd7 Bxd7 20.Ne5 Be8 21.Ng4 Rab8 22.Nf6+ Kh8 23.Nxe8 Rxe8 24.e5 Rxe5 25.Bf6+ Bg7 26.Bxe5 Bxe5 27.d6 Kg7 28.d7 Bf6 |
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| Aug-15-20 | | RandomVisitor: <Brenin: <agb2002>: After 19 Rxf7 Kxf7 20 Ne5+, 20 ... Kg8 looks safer than Kf6, with 21 Qf3 Be8 22 Bb5 Qa3 23 Qf5 Qe7 24 d6 Qd8 more or less forced for both sides, each on a knife-edge. I find the resulting position both amusing and totally unclear.> After 24...Qd8 it appears that white can force nothing, except an unclear ending... 
click for larger viewStockfish_20080713_x64_modern:
71/90 8:16:20 +0.72 25.Qe6+ Kh8 26.Qf5 Kg8 27.Ba4 Kg7 28.Rd1 Qf6 29.Qxc8 Bxa4 30.Qb7+ Kg8 31.d7 Nxd7 32.Qd5+ Kh8 33.Nxd7 Bxd7 34.Bxg5 Qc6 71/86 8:16:20 +0.72 25.Ba4 Kg7 26.Rd1 Qf6 27.Qxc8 Bxa4 28.Qb7+ Kg8 29.d7 Nxd7 30.Qd5+ Kh8 31.Nxd7 Bxd7 32.Bxg5 Qc6 33.Bf6+ Qxf6 34.Qxa8 Bc6 70/86 8:16:20 0.00 25.Bg3 Bg7 26.Qe6+ Kh7 27.d7 Nxd7 28.Nxd7 a6 29.Ba4 Rc3 30.Be5 Bxd7 31.Bxd7 Rd3 32.Bc6 Rc8 33.Qf5+ Kh8 34.Bd5 Qf8 |
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Aug-15-20
| | chrisowen: I need to rub off the back rank! |
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