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Peter Elger vs Michael L Brent
ICCF USA-Germany match (1990) (correspondence), Jun-01
Grob Opening: Grob Gambit. Declined (A00)  ·  0-1

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Feb-08-04
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  patzer2: This game is of some importance in providing a theoreticically recommended reply for Black in the first six moves of a tricky variation of Grob's opening (used with some success by a now deceased Federal Prisoner and convicted murder by the name of Bloodgood). The line is recommended for Black by Kasparov and Keene in Batsford's Chess Openings and accredited to British GM Michael Basman (a GM proponent of Grob's opening).
Feb-08-04  sleepkid: 31. Rd3+ (winning the bishop) was possibly better, however, the pawns are still a big problem.
Feb-08-04
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  patzer2: <sleepkid> I think you are right that 31. Rd3+ winning the Bishop was was better (seems to give White counterchances). However, despite the middle game oversight, I still think the initial six first moves make for a sound opening strategy against this variation of the Grob.
Feb-10-04
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  patzer2: For a master level game with the initial moves here go to www.chesslab.com and search for the game Dumpor A (2376) versus Horvath A (2503) played in 2003, which was a very decisive Black win.
Feb-14-04
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  patzer2: Although the first seven moves are recommended by Kasparov and Keene in BCO (based on Basman's analysis), Fritz 8's recommendation of 6...Qc7 is a flexible alternative.

Fritz 8 gives best play as 6...Qc7 7. Bg2 <7. Nf3 e5 8. e4 dxe4 9. Nh2 Qe7 10. d3 exd3 11. Qxd3 Qb4+ 12. Nd2 Be6 13. Nhf3 Nd7 (-0.78 @ 17 depth & 660kN/s) > 7...Qh2 8. Kf1 Qh7 9. Nf3 Bf5 10. d3 Nd7 11. Bf4 f6 12. Bc7 e5 13. Nbd2 (-0.66 @ 17 depth & 660kN/s).

Feb-15-04
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  patzer2: Still working on finding a win for Black against White's gambit line of the Grob Attack opening (1.g4 d4 2. Bg2), and with a lot of help from BCO (Kasparov and Keene and IM Basman's recommendation) and Fritz 8 I think I've found a small improvement to the line in this game that should give White Grob players a very difficult problem in surviving the opening.

IM Basman's declined line with the first seven moves of this game looks very good for Black. In the gambit line of the Grob, BCO gives IM Basman's line as best play with 1. g4 d4 2. Bg2 c3 3. g5 h6! 4. h4 < if 4. gxh6, then 4...Nxh6; if 4. g6, then 4...f3 > 4...hxg5 5. hxg5 Rxh1 6. Bxh1 Qd6 7. Nf3 Bg4 8. d3 e5 with a slight Black Advantage. The two games I've found so far in this line are decisive Wins for Black. And the deep computer analysis by Fritz 8 keeps finding better and better resources for Black and very contorted and uncomfortable positions for White.

The first Fritz 8 analysis on this line from above went 6...Qc7! 7. Nf3 e5 8. e4 dxe4 9. Nh2 Qe7 10. d3 exd3 11. Qxd3 Qb4+ 12. Nd2 Be6 13. Nhf3 Nd7 (-0.78 @ 17 depth & 660kN/s), with a clear Black advantage.

A second Fritz 8 analysis continues 14. b3 0-0-0 15. Bb2 f6 16. a3 Qa5 17. Bc3 Qc7 Bc3 Qc7 (-1.34 @ 19 depth @ 711 kN/s). In this position, White is down a pawn with a disorganized position ,with weak pawns, that will be difficult to defend. Against strong players of even strength, I think Black might have a decisive advantage.

Conclusion: IM Basman's recommended line of play with Fritz 8's recommended <6...Qc7!> and 7Nf3 <e5!> improvements to the play in this game appear to give Black a very strong advantage, and seem to make the Grob gambit a struggle for White to equalize in an inferior position.

May-12-16
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  whiteshark: <Brent>, it's black gold, Texas tea...

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